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Find a company doing something similar and try to get a job there (Obvious Corp may be doing something similar, but I can't even find contact info, much less ge

by miles 14y ago

Find a company doing something similar and try to get a job there (Obvious Corp may be doing something similar, but I can't even find contact info, much less get hired. But they seem like great people.) C'mon, man - you can do better than that: http://www.google.com/search?q=Obvious+Corp http://www.google.com/search?q=Obvious+Corp Second result: http://www.crunchbase.com/company/obvious http://www.crunchbase.com/company/obvious Twitter @ObviousCorp Phone 415-285-4255 164 South Park Street San Francisco, CA, 94107 Whois reveals yet more.

jdrobins2000 14y ago
Thanks, but you didn't try calling that number, did you? It is disconnected.
- miles 14y ago
  A quick whois search turns up yet more: 415-513-5196 domain.admin@obvious.com 2601 Mission Street, San Francisco, CA, 94401
  - jdrobins2000 14y ago
    Thanks! Seems like an unconventional and creative route. I've used whois of course, but never to get contact info for a well-known company, so I didn't even think about it. I will give it a (admittedly long) shot. Oh and for the record, yes I had already tried the number on crunch base. I've also sent a twitter message, but no response yet.
    - miles 14y ago
      I guess my point was this: it shows a lack of motivation and drive saying that you can't find out how to contact a company you are genuinely interested in. The Google and whois queries took less than 30 seconds to come up with and perform. A motivated person should be able to do much better in 10 or 15 minutes. May you find what you are looking for!
      - jdrobins2000 14y ago
        Thanks, I appreciate the well wishes and practical help in getting there. I certainly understand your reasoning, even if my conclusion is different. I try to be careful not to judge anything based on one small aspect without considering the whole, or jump to conclusions on a decidedly complex issue (any human action, really, including my own). You may of course do as you wish. I did the google query a couple days ago, called the number twice to verify the disconnected message wasn't the result of a weird network error, then did several more queries and surfing around their various web sites (obvious.com, which now redirects to medium.com, jellyhq.com (where I promptly subscribed to the early adopter list), media stories, and social media accounts, to no avail. I spent much more than 15 minutes on it, and hopefully my post here displays at least a modicum of motivation and drive. I made the remark because I thought it was odd, not as a request for someone else to do my homework for me, but I appreciate your initiative. I think what you read as lack of motivation, I believe is infrequent use of whois (due to its irrelevance for the vast majority of my work on classified networks) and especially in this capacity, leading to oversight of that tool as potentially useful for solving my problem. I overlooked the whois suggestion in your first post, because I was in the middle of composing a response to someone else, and probably because my attention went straight to the phone number I recognized. I am sorry my oversight inconvenienced you, but I do appreciate you lending your expertise to help (however trivial it was to you). I think it would be accurate to see this as a weakness of lesser familiarity with certain things due to having spent large amounts of time in a different environment. That would be fair. I just think those type of things are generally easy to pick up, compared to the things that are difficult to learn, or just can't be taught period. Not unimportant or trivial, but a minor challenge. And those concepts that are difficult or critical to get right the first time, are the reason why I applied to YC, and why I am asking HNers for advice. And I will make every effort to eventually give back more than I receive.
        miles 14y ago
        Thanks for the thoughtful reply. You are clearly well-spoken and patient, two excellent traits in any profession. Godspeed!

by miles 14y ago

jdrobins2000 14y ago

Thanks, but you didn't try calling that number, did you? It is disconnected.

miles 14y ago
A quick whois search turns up yet more: 415-513-5196 domain.admin@obvious.com 2601 Mission Street, San Francisco, CA, 94401
- jdrobins2000 14y ago
  Thanks! Seems like an unconventional and creative route. I've used whois of course, but never to get contact info for a well-known company, so I didn't even think about it. I will give it a (admittedly long) shot. Oh and for the record, yes I had already tried the number on crunch base. I've also sent a twitter message, but no response yet.
  - miles 14y ago
    I guess my point was this: it shows a lack of motivation and drive saying that you can't find out how to contact a company you are genuinely interested in. The Google and whois queries took less than 30 seconds to come up with and perform. A motivated person should be able to do much better in 10 or 15 minutes. May you find what you are looking for!
    - jdrobins2000 14y ago
      Thanks, I appreciate the well wishes and practical help in getting there. I certainly understand your reasoning, even if my conclusion is different. I try to be careful not to judge anything based on one small aspect without considering the whole, or jump to conclusions on a decidedly complex issue (any human action, really, including my own). You may of course do as you wish. I did the google query a couple days ago, called the number twice to verify the disconnected message wasn't the result of a weird network error, then did several more queries and surfing around their various web sites (obvious.com, which now redirects to medium.com, jellyhq.com (where I promptly subscribed to the early adopter list), media stories, and social media accounts, to no avail. I spent much more than 15 minutes on it, and hopefully my post here displays at least a modicum of motivation and drive. I made the remark because I thought it was odd, not as a request for someone else to do my homework for me, but I appreciate your initiative. I think what you read as lack of motivation, I believe is infrequent use of whois (due to its irrelevance for the vast majority of my work on classified networks) and especially in this capacity, leading to oversight of that tool as potentially useful for solving my problem. I overlooked the whois suggestion in your first post, because I was in the middle of composing a response to someone else, and probably because my attention went straight to the phone number I recognized. I am sorry my oversight inconvenienced you, but I do appreciate you lending your expertise to help (however trivial it was to you). I think it would be accurate to see this as a weakness of lesser familiarity with certain things due to having spent large amounts of time in a different environment. That would be fair. I just think those type of things are generally easy to pick up, compared to the things that are difficult to learn, or just can't be taught period. Not unimportant or trivial, but a minor challenge. And those concepts that are difficult or critical to get right the first time, are the reason why I applied to YC, and why I am asking HNers for advice. And I will make every effort to eventually give back more than I receive.
      - miles 14y ago
        Thanks for the thoughtful reply. You are clearly well-spoken and patient, two excellent traits in any profession. Godspeed!