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Perhaps there is something to learn from grove.io (I'm not saying it's a bad idea, only that you should learn more about what didn't work for them -- which you

Perhaps there is something to learn from grove.io (I'm not saying it's a bad idea, only that you should learn more about what didn't work for them -- which you presumably already have) https://grove.io/blog/grove-shutting-down-october-13 https://grove.io/blog/grove-shutting-down-october-13

pepijndevos 14y ago
It didn't take over the world, and I don't expect to either. Some people go live on a farm and herd sheep, I herd servers. Another thing I took away from that is that closed source software dies with their author. Open source lives forever.
frankwiles 14y ago
Encourage you to read the more recent blog posts at https://grove.io/blog/ https://grove.io/blog/ as well. My company acquired Grove and are continuing to run it profitably I might add.
- jakerocheleau 14y ago
  That's great! I just found Grove in this comments thread and it does look very promising. Best of luck with the service.
dsl 14y ago
Pownce, Convore, Grove, all shared similar fates, I think its more indicative of the founder not the business.
- iloveponies 14y ago
  Personal opinions of said founder aside, all three were bringing arguably trivial products to market where there already was a large presence of two or more players dominating (Twitter/Facebook/status.net for Pownce, HipChat/Campfire for Grove) and with a lack of game-changing innovation to separate them. Makes less sense to blame the people, rather than lay blame to what they did (or did not) do.
  - dsl 14y ago
    > bringing arguably trivial products to market ... with a lack of game-changing innovation to separate them. It sounds to me like you are judging the founder. Not that I would disagree with you. Don't get me wrong, I think Leah is awesome. She just builds up companies for soft landings/aquihires and pockets some money along the way. There is no reason a viable company couldn't exist on the grove model.
- jakerocheleau 14y ago
  I did enjoy Pownce back in the day. It worked and I loved the ease of connecting files with certain people. But I think my bias was greatly attributed to adoring their funky layout design: http://www.bomega.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/pownce.png http://www.bomega.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/pownce.png

pepijndevos 14y ago

It didn't take over the world, and I don't expect to either. Some people go live on a farm and herd sheep, I herd servers. Another thing I took away from that is that closed source software dies with their author. Open source lives forever.

frankwiles 14y ago

Encourage you to read the more recent blog posts at https://grove.io/blog/ https://grove.io/blog/ as well. My company acquired Grove and are continuing to run it profitably I might add.

jakerocheleau 14y ago
That's great! I just found Grove in this comments thread and it does look very promising. Best of luck with the service.

dsl 14y ago

Pownce, Convore, Grove, all shared similar fates, I think its more indicative of the founder not the business.

iloveponies 14y ago
Personal opinions of said founder aside, all three were bringing arguably trivial products to market where there already was a large presence of two or more players dominating (Twitter/Facebook/status.net for Pownce, HipChat/Campfire for Grove) and with a lack of game-changing innovation to separate them. Makes less sense to blame the people, rather than lay blame to what they did (or did not) do.
- dsl 14y ago
  > bringing arguably trivial products to market ... with a lack of game-changing innovation to separate them. It sounds to me like you are judging the founder. Not that I would disagree with you. Don't get me wrong, I think Leah is awesome. She just builds up companies for soft landings/aquihires and pockets some money along the way. There is no reason a viable company couldn't exist on the grove model.
jakerocheleau 14y ago
I did enjoy Pownce back in the day. It worked and I loved the ease of connecting files with certain people. But I think my bias was greatly attributed to adoring their funky layout design: http://www.bomega.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/pownce.png http://www.bomega.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/pownce.png