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"Nobody could make a list since as you yourself said it changes day by day." Not quite. I'm asking what the privileges/penalties are, which I believe can be li

by JDGM 13y ago

"Nobody could make a list since as you yourself said it changes day by day." Not quite. I'm asking what the privileges/penalties are, which I believe can be listed. An additional second column for the accompanying thresholds, sure, they change so maybe not.

UnoriginalGuy 13y ago
No way the admins will release that. It would be a goldmine for spammers. Just get their account up to X karma and it is worth twice as much for resale.
- mschuster91 13y ago
  The problem will just be to get enough karma. Imagine 1000 karma as target, which 'd require to create quite a lot of different users to not trigger any automated spam filters; also the to-be-upvoted account would need to post good, relevant content so that those with enough karma don't flag or downvote it.
- JDGM 13y ago
  Right. I feel we're talking past each other a bit here. The topic is titled "Ask HN: What are the HN karmic privileges/penalties?" - this question is reasonably answered by returning a list akin to the following: "Comment Downvote, Poll Creation, Topbar Colour Choice, ..." The topic as stated does not ask for the thresholds. I mention in the body "correspondingly definitive "price guide"", but that's a separate afterthought.
- Toshio 13y ago
  > "No way the admins will release that. It would be a goldmine for spammers." Or microsoft sycophants - a growing problem on HN (just ask @cooldeal, @recoiledsnake and @fekberg).
- jtheory 13y ago
  You're overstating this, I think. How much would a downvoting HN account be worth, really? Sure, a spammer could sneak in a few messages at a more visible level, or presumably down-vote their competitors, but the suddenly-abusive account would get shut down pretty swiftly. On other hand, the work required to get an account up to a significant level (say, 500+) is non-trivial, cannot be outsourced to a minimally-trained mouse-clicker, and wouldn't run cheap. It's not clear to me how it would help a spammer to know what the limit it, given that it's high enough that the work is not worthwhile.

by JDGM 13y ago

UnoriginalGuy 13y ago

No way the admins will release that. It would be a goldmine for spammers. Just get their account up to X karma and it is worth twice as much for resale.

mschuster91 13y ago
The problem will just be to get enough karma. Imagine 1000 karma as target, which 'd require to create quite a lot of different users to not trigger any automated spam filters; also the to-be-upvoted account would need to post good, relevant content so that those with enough karma don't flag or downvote it.
JDGM 13y ago
Right. I feel we're talking past each other a bit here. The topic is titled "Ask HN: What are the HN karmic privileges/penalties?" - this question is reasonably answered by returning a list akin to the following: "Comment Downvote, Poll Creation, Topbar Colour Choice, ..." The topic as stated does not ask for the thresholds. I mention in the body "correspondingly definitive "price guide"", but that's a separate afterthought.
Toshio 13y ago
> "No way the admins will release that. It would be a goldmine for spammers." Or microsoft sycophants - a growing problem on HN (just ask @cooldeal, @recoiledsnake and @fekberg).
jtheory 13y ago
You're overstating this, I think. How much would a downvoting HN account be worth, really? Sure, a spammer could sneak in a few messages at a more visible level, or presumably down-vote their competitors, but the suddenly-abusive account would get shut down pretty swiftly. On other hand, the work required to get an account up to a significant level (say, 500+) is non-trivial, cannot be outsourced to a minimally-trained mouse-clicker, and wouldn't run cheap. It's not clear to me how it would help a spammer to know what the limit it, given that it's high enough that the work is not worthwhile.