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IIRC they put a 'ring of steel' around the financial distict of London ('the city') in the early 90s as a way of protecting it from IRA attacks. Also the IRA ga

by barking 14y ago

IIRC they put a 'ring of steel' around the financial distict of London ('the city') in the early 90s as a way of protecting it from IRA attacks. Also the IRA gave warnings so that despite truck size bombs the loss of life was relatively small (1 in the Bishopsgate bomb in '93) Saying you 'lived through' that is a bit dramatic. A lot of us did and it meant nothing more than reading about it in the paper same as everyone else.

hga 14y ago
More than a bit of revisionism here; sure, that was often the pattern but not always successful in preventing deaths or hundreds of injuries per bombing, and they were less fastidious against regieme targets: attempting to assasinate Thacher and her cabinet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing, 5 killed), soldiers and spectators at Hyde Park and Regent's Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Park_and_Regent%27s_Park_bombings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Park_and_Regent%27s_Park_b...), etc. Again from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_campaign_1969%E2%80%931997#Attacks_outside_Northern_Ireland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Ar...): "During the IRA's 25 year campaign in England, 115 deaths and 2,134 injuries were reported, from a total of almost 500 attacks. Malcom Sutton reports 125 fatalities in Britain, 68 civilians, 50 members of the security forces and 7 paramilitaries." By the latter count more civilians than even theoretically legitimate targets.
- barking 14y ago
  I fail to see how my post was revisionistic. Your own statistics suggest that there was about 1 fatality for every 4 attacks. And that was over a 20 year period. That was the only point I was making and it was in response to another poster's comment about how London was not locked-down in response. Locking-down London would have been ridiculous. In fact the IRA would have viewed that as a victory. The Boston situation was very different in almost every aspect.
  - mogrim 14y ago
    Ok, the London IRA example wasn't identical - but the Madrid example was. (Presumably) islamic terrorism, perpetrators still at large, etc. No shutdown.

by barking 14y ago

hga 14y ago

More than a bit of revisionism here; sure, that was often the pattern but not always successful in preventing deaths or hundreds of injuries per bombing, and they were less fastidious against regieme targets: attempting to assasinate Thacher and her cabinet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing, 5 killed), soldiers and spectators at Hyde Park and Regent's Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Park_and_Regent%27s_Park_bombings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Park_and_Regent%27s_Park_b...), etc. Again from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_campaign_1969%E2%80%931997#Attacks_outside_Northern_Ireland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Ar...): "During the IRA's 25 year campaign in England, 115 deaths and 2,134 injuries were reported, from a total of almost 500 attacks. Malcom Sutton reports 125 fatalities in Britain, 68 civilians, 50 members of the security forces and 7 paramilitaries." By the latter count more civilians than even theoretically legitimate targets.

barking 14y ago
I fail to see how my post was revisionistic. Your own statistics suggest that there was about 1 fatality for every 4 attacks. And that was over a 20 year period. That was the only point I was making and it was in response to another poster's comment about how London was not locked-down in response. Locking-down London would have been ridiculous. In fact the IRA would have viewed that as a victory. The Boston situation was very different in almost every aspect.
- mogrim 14y ago
  Ok, the London IRA example wasn't identical - but the Madrid example was. (Presumably) islamic terrorism, perpetrators still at large, etc. No shutdown.