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I remember when Apple mispriced their 1TB hard drives at $30 instead of $300 [1]. All orders were cancelled. I'm a huge fan of Razer. I own many of their produ

by shocks 14y ago

I remember when Apple mispriced their 1TB hard drives at $30 instead of $300 [1]. All orders were cancelled. I'm a huge fan of Razer. I own many of their products and would recommend them all, especially the DeathAdder mouse. Seriously, it's quite possibly the best mouse you will ever use. I didn't get anything ordered with a 90% reduction, but I think I'll be ordered an Orbweaver later today. They deserve it. 1: http://www.digital-forums.com/showthread.php/307773-Misprice-Time-Iomega-1TB-Hard-drive-%C2%A325-24-delivered http://www.digital-forums.com/showthread.php/307773-Misprice... edit: Spelling, and added the only source I could find.

dorian-graph 14y ago
I've used the DeathAdder since my original IntelliMouse died (Probably about 5-6 years now) and it's been the perfect successor. Just the right size, weight, good movement, simple, etc.
- shocks 14y ago
  Absolutely. I love the accuracy and feel of the mouse. What mousemat are you using? I was using a Razer Goliathus[1] but switched to a BF3 Razer Scarab[2] my brother won at in an internal DICE raffle before BF3 came out. It is 100x better than the Goliathus and I would recommend a similar 'hard' mat if you don't have one already. Lots of space, very smooth, and very accurate. 1: http://www.razerzone.com/gb-en/store/razer-goliathus-speed-edition http://www.razerzone.com/gb-en/store/razer-goliathus-speed-e... 2: http://www.razerzone.com/gb-en/store/battlefield-3-razer-scarab http://www.razerzone.com/gb-en/store/battlefield-3-razer-sca...
darkchasma 14y ago
I have no issues with a company not honouring a mistake, but honouring one will definitely win my respect, and make me want to buy from them in the future.
- shocks 14y ago
  I wasn't saying Apple did anything wrong, I'm just saying there's a clear difference in business strategies. :)
  - kayoone 14y ago
    theres also a clear difference in the size of both companies. For Razer as small company this is brilliant PR, probably better than most of their marketing campaigns, so money well spent. Apple ? They probably couldnt care less. I am not saying Razer only does this because they see their benefit, but they probably also dont only do it because they are nice people.
ohkine 14y ago
I have a DeathAdder. The mouse itself (the hardware) is great. However, the software (the thing that really makes the mouse functional and configurable, which is what i thought i was paying for) is one of the most absurd and infuriating things i have ever had to deal with. The configuration tool was designed in the vein of Steam — it requires an Internet connection to use it. At all. So before you can change the mouse settings, before the mouse will even LOAD its settings, you must create a Razer account and sign in to their online service through the tool. Only then will you be able to do anything with the mouse. Also like Steam, there is an option to 'go offline', but it (perhaps unintentionally) doesn't seem to persist across sessions. So if you lose your connection and then you reboot the computer or the tool crashes (which is semi-frequent), you're back to where you started — a log-in prompt. In addition to that, just from a usability perspective, the software is a disaster. It is a mass of grey-on-grey text, modal panes, near-full-screen sliders, and unexplained icons that i dread even thinking about using. In addition, the tool adds an ugly menu-bar icon that you can't get rid of, and once you install the software you can never close it — if you try to kill the tool or any of its background services, the entire thing will respawn. And just to give you that extra punch in the face, every time the tool starts (at boot or because one of its background services crashed) the giant black-and-green blob pops up on top of everything else. HEY, HEY, LOG IN TO YOUR MOUSE NOW The scroll wheel is also apparently non-configurable on OS X, which is incredible because the default behaviour is some pre-Windows-95 we've-just-invented-scroll-wheels one-pixel-per-rotation insanity. Lastly, every single update to the software requires that you reboot the entire machine. I am not exaggerating when i say that i loathe using this god-damn mouse.
- shocks 14y ago
  > HEY, HEY, LOG IN TO YOUR MOUSE NOW > Lastly, every single update to the software requires that you reboot the entire machine. I only used the software once, a few years ago. I never logged into anything, it never required internet access, it never frequently updated and it never required a reboot. You realise you don't need the software right? You can use the mouse perfectly without it. All the software lets you do is change the sensitivity (any good OS will let you do that), turn off the light, and program the "bottom" button. The light is under your hand 90% of the time and is off when your computer is off. It's a non-issue. The button the bottom is in an irritating position and I have never needed to use it. Sure, you could configure it to change sensitivity during a game (consider running and gunning vs. accurate sniping, perhaps?) but in reality no one is going to lift their mouse during an computer game to adjust the sensitivity. > the default behaviour is some pre-Windows-95 we've-just-invented-scroll-wheels one-pixel-per-rotation insanity. I have never experienced this problem. I don't know what you're talking about.

by shocks 14y ago

dorian-graph 14y ago

I've used the DeathAdder since my original IntelliMouse died (Probably about 5-6 years now) and it's been the perfect successor. Just the right size, weight, good movement, simple, etc.

shocks 14y ago
Absolutely. I love the accuracy and feel of the mouse. What mousemat are you using? I was using a Razer Goliathus[1] but switched to a BF3 Razer Scarab[2] my brother won at in an internal DICE raffle before BF3 came out. It is 100x better than the Goliathus and I would recommend a similar 'hard' mat if you don't have one already. Lots of space, very smooth, and very accurate. 1: http://www.razerzone.com/gb-en/store/razer-goliathus-speed-edition http://www.razerzone.com/gb-en/store/razer-goliathus-speed-e... 2: http://www.razerzone.com/gb-en/store/battlefield-3-razer-scarab http://www.razerzone.com/gb-en/store/battlefield-3-razer-sca...

darkchasma 14y ago

I have no issues with a company not honouring a mistake, but honouring one will definitely win my respect, and make me want to buy from them in the future.

shocks 14y ago
I wasn't saying Apple did anything wrong, I'm just saying there's a clear difference in business strategies. :)
- kayoone 14y ago
  theres also a clear difference in the size of both companies. For Razer as small company this is brilliant PR, probably better than most of their marketing campaigns, so money well spent. Apple ? They probably couldnt care less. I am not saying Razer only does this because they see their benefit, but they probably also dont only do it because they are nice people.

ohkine 14y ago

I have a DeathAdder. The mouse itself (the hardware) is great. However, the software (the thing that really makes the mouse functional and configurable, which is what i thought i was paying for) is one of the most absurd and infuriating things i have ever had to deal with. The configuration tool was designed in the vein of Steam — it requires an Internet connection to use it. At all. So before you can change the mouse settings, before the mouse will even LOAD its settings, you must create a Razer account and sign in to their online service through the tool. Only then will you be able to do anything with the mouse. Also like Steam, there is an option to 'go offline', but it (perhaps unintentionally) doesn't seem to persist across sessions. So if you lose your connection and then you reboot the computer or the tool crashes (which is semi-frequent), you're back to where you started — a log-in prompt. In addition to that, just from a usability perspective, the software is a disaster. It is a mass of grey-on-grey text, modal panes, near-full-screen sliders, and unexplained icons that i dread even thinking about using. In addition, the tool adds an ugly menu-bar icon that you can't get rid of, and once you install the software you can never close it — if you try to kill the tool or any of its background services, the entire thing will respawn. And just to give you that extra punch in the face, every time the tool starts (at boot or because one of its background services crashed) the giant black-and-green blob pops up on top of everything else. HEY, HEY, LOG IN TO YOUR MOUSE NOW The scroll wheel is also apparently non-configurable on OS X, which is incredible because the default behaviour is some pre-Windows-95 we've-just-invented-scroll-wheels one-pixel-per-rotation insanity. Lastly, every single update to the software requires that you reboot the entire machine. I am not exaggerating when i say that i loathe using this god-damn mouse.

shocks 14y ago
> HEY, HEY, LOG IN TO YOUR MOUSE NOW > Lastly, every single update to the software requires that you reboot the entire machine. I only used the software once, a few years ago. I never logged into anything, it never required internet access, it never frequently updated and it never required a reboot. You realise you don't need the software right? You can use the mouse perfectly without it. All the software lets you do is change the sensitivity (any good OS will let you do that), turn off the light, and program the "bottom" button. The light is under your hand 90% of the time and is off when your computer is off. It's a non-issue. The button the bottom is in an irritating position and I have never needed to use it. Sure, you could configure it to change sensitivity during a game (consider running and gunning vs. accurate sniping, perhaps?) but in reality no one is going to lift their mouse during an computer game to adjust the sensitivity. > the default behaviour is some pre-Windows-95 we've-just-invented-scroll-wheels one-pixel-per-rotation insanity. I have never experienced this problem. I don't know what you're talking about.