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"" Finally, Ms. Reinhart and Mr. Rogoff allowed researchers at the University of Massachusetts to look at their original spreadsheet — and the mystery of the ir
by igravious 14y ago
"" Finally, Ms. Reinhart and Mr. Rogoff allowed researchers at the University of Massachusetts to look at their original spreadsheet — and the mystery of the irreproducible results was solved. First, they omitted some data; second, they used unusual and highly questionable statistical procedures; and finally, yes, they made an Excel coding error. Correct these oddities and errors, and you get what other researchers have found: some correlation between high debt and slow growth, with no indication of which is causing which, but no sign at all of that 90 percent “threshold.” ""
Krugman has a very opinionated -->> "other researchers have found"
not about Excel -->> "finally, yes, they made an Excel coding error"
way to compete against Excel is actually learning to love the tool -->> Irrelevant to the topic at hand really. What might be more relevant is news like this[1]: suicides and murders are dramatically up in Greece in the wake of the austerity measures. Choice quote, "Suicide and murder rates climbed from 2007 to 2009 particularly among men, and unusual outbreaks of malaria, West Nile virus and HIV took clinicians by surprise, said the findings in the American Journal of Public Health." Austerity measures in Europe are having very real and tangible consequences, the vagaries of Excel-wrangling are neither here nor there. Granted the NY Times article title is arguably link-baity and sensationalist. One wonders do R/R worry about how their shoddy research has been parlayed into needless suffering?
[1] http://www.thejournal.ie/suicides-murders-rise-as-greek-austerity-takes-health-toll-875916-Apr2013/ http://www.thejournal.ie/suicides-murders-rise-as-greek-aust...
- pc86 14y agoSo you're saying that austerity measures are causing malaria and HIV? Really? Correlation != causation as I'm sure everyone knows.
- scarmig 14y agoWhen austerity is cutting into public health measures, there is a pretty clear causative route, however.
- pc86 14y agoMaybe I'm being pedantic, but that's an implementation issue and not a root problem with austerity. Just because I mess up all the config options for Apache doesn't mean Apache sucks. The argument that austerity itself is bad because it's killing babies and giving everyone AIDS is a bit ridiculous. Just to be clear, I'm not arguing for austerity at all. I'm just saying everyone's jumping on the chance to blame austerity for every conceivable problem because they happen to disagree with it politically.
- igravious 14y agoIt's not giving everyone AIDS. The article doesn't say that, it says that there were cuts to the health service which meant that "periphery" services like needle exchange programs were reduced which has already lead to a noticeable increase in a certain portion of the population (presumably drug users who share needles) contracting HIV. But you obviously don't care about the details. And what's with the killing babies reference?
- flyinRyan 14y agohttp://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/10/correlation_does_not_imply_causation_how_the_internet_fell_in_love_with_a_stats_class_clich_.html http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/201...