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To be fair, the majority (52%) of Dems voted against the bill. Contrast that with 13% of Republicans.

by niggler 13y ago

freyr 13y ago
To be fair, that's just barely a majority. But I suppose it's great in the "lessor of two evils" sense.
- niggler 13y ago
  To be fair, my congresswoman (Maloney) voted Nay.
  - ahsteele 13y ago
    Where can I find how my congressman voted. http://www.opencongress.org/roll_call/all http://www.opencongress.org/roll_call/all does not yet have the results from today's vote.
    - niggler 13y ago
      The article for this chain (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll117.xml# http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll117.xml#) has the roll call (by last name, and they mention states where there is confusion) If you don't know or don't remember your congressperson: http://house.gov/representatives/find/ http://house.gov/representatives/find/
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leeoniya 13y ago
the term "majority" sorely needs to be redefined when the converse is "48% minority"
sophacles 13y ago
To be actually fair - if we could label the parties with anything it would be: Republicans stand for strong tribalism - doing only what the tribe approves and not applying any actual rationality to it. Insanely pro-team people are regularly kicked out of this party for mild disagreement with a small subset of this weeks ideals. Democrats stand for weak triablism - they are sort of in the same camp on some stuff, but generally are allowed to disagree with the cult on things too. No one is kicked out, but bickering gets in the way of standing up to a strong voting block of the super-tribalist republicans.
- bob13579 13y ago
  When has a Republican senator or representative been kicked out for voicing a differing opinion? I'm assuming, according to your logic, John McCain will be kicked out sometime soon for his vote yesterday? What about the Republican senator who is now pro gay marriage (Dick Cheney is one too as a matter of fact)? Will they be kicked out too? Or what about Ron Paul and his foreign policy? Will they call for his head soon?
  - sophacles 13y ago
    I see you are one of those people who doesn't understand snarky hyperbole. Too bad for you. The point still stands, republicans very vocally value tribalism over most other things. They loudly rant about "real americans" and "how they don't matter, just us" and "I don't like it, but thats just how we play" (the last a particularly vile buck passing - rather than take responsibility, it gets to be no one's fault "cuz the party").

To be fair, the majority (52%) of Dems voted against the bill. Contrast that with 13% of Republicans.

by niggler 13y ago

To be fair, the majority (52%) of Dems voted against the bill. Contrast that with 13% of Republicans.

freyr 13y ago

To be fair, that's just barely a majority. But I suppose it's great in the "lessor of two evils" sense.

niggler 13y ago
To be fair, my congresswoman (Maloney) voted Nay.
- ahsteele 13y ago
  Where can I find how my congressman voted. http://www.opencongress.org/roll_call/all http://www.opencongress.org/roll_call/all does not yet have the results from today's vote.
  - niggler 13y ago
    The article for this chain (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll117.xml# http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll117.xml#) has the roll call (by last name, and they mention states where there is confusion) If you don't know or don't remember your congressperson: http://house.gov/representatives/find/ http://house.gov/representatives/find/
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leeoniya 13y ago

the term "majority" sorely needs to be redefined when the converse is "48% minority"

sophacles 13y ago

To be actually fair - if we could label the parties with anything it would be: Republicans stand for strong tribalism - doing only what the tribe approves and not applying any actual rationality to it. Insanely pro-team people are regularly kicked out of this party for mild disagreement with a small subset of this weeks ideals. Democrats stand for weak triablism - they are sort of in the same camp on some stuff, but generally are allowed to disagree with the cult on things too. No one is kicked out, but bickering gets in the way of standing up to a strong voting block of the super-tribalist republicans.

bob13579 13y ago
When has a Republican senator or representative been kicked out for voicing a differing opinion? I'm assuming, according to your logic, John McCain will be kicked out sometime soon for his vote yesterday? What about the Republican senator who is now pro gay marriage (Dick Cheney is one too as a matter of fact)? Will they be kicked out too? Or what about Ron Paul and his foreign policy? Will they call for his head soon?
- sophacles 13y ago
  I see you are one of those people who doesn't understand snarky hyperbole. Too bad for you. The point still stands, republicans very vocally value tribalism over most other things. They loudly rant about "real americans" and "how they don't matter, just us" and "I don't like it, but thats just how we play" (the last a particularly vile buck passing - rather than take responsibility, it gets to be no one's fault "cuz the party").