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the only way this is going to be stopped now is if Google, Twitter, and the other big tech companies come out strongly against it. except for reddit, they've be
by t0dd 13y ago
the only way this is going to be stopped now is if Google, Twitter, and the other big tech companies come out strongly against it. except for reddit, they've been quiet so far. don't count on Obama's veto threat at all.
- lawnchair_larry 13y agoZero chance Obama will veto it, he just gave a massive budget to the spying program that CISPA was created to facilitate.
- flipcoder 13y agoObama veto threat = false sense of security to CISPA opposers His track record tells me he'll sign it happily while saying "I have serious reservations about this".
- saraid216 13y agoI'm really proud of how you guys managed a 3-deep comment thread saying the same thing each time. It really speaks to the breadth of intellectual quality we have available here.
- flipcoder 13y agoWell it's better than you'll get on reddit.
- gergles 13y agoHe'll sign it with a signing statement going "I don't really like any of this, but I'm going to sign it anyway" and claim that is somehow a solution.
- notmarkus 13y agoTo be fair, the majority of YEA's come from Republicans, who control the House, and the majority of NAY's come from Democrats, who control the Senate. This has already died in the Senate once, so I wouldn't be surprised if that happens again.
- firefoxman1 13y agoSo much for the "small government" Republicans advocate, huh?
- csense 13y agoRepublicans are by no means unified about that. Libertarians are probably the weakest leg of the Republican coalition. The religious right and the neocons are much stronger, the former has little reason to oppose this, the latter might be naturally inclined to support it. Interestingly, I've been hearing a bit about Democratic-leaning "civil libertarians" -- people who want small government without buying into any of the Republican social agenda. Maybe there's a way to build a coalition that can take a big enough bite out of both parties to force them to take notice...
- enduser 13y agoThere were almost as many Democratic YEAs (92) as Democratic NAYs (98).
- fiblye 13y agoIt's half-and-half with dems though, while republicans while overwhelmingly in favor of it. There's a chance the democratic senate will reject it, but considering a large number of them are blue dog democrats, it's not looking good.
- rquantz 13y agoWhat are your reasons to question Obama's veto threat?
- Carltonian 13y agoIf he were to veto it, it would already pass again in the House with a 2/3's vote. The Senate would require some politicking, but it's not unimaginable that it could also get a 2/3's vote. Having your veto overturned is a bad thing. That alone would be a reason. The other reason being that Obama chose to stay silent on the SOPA/PIPA/CISPA issue the first time around. Coming out against it would have cost him relatively little in public opinion, which must mean there are interests relevant to him that aren't entirely opposed to the bill.
- Carltonian 13y agohttp://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-obama-threatens-veto-of-cispa-bill-20130416,0,5917419.story http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-obama-th... Happy to be wrong.