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I think it’s a shame that the organic farming is being reduced to the quality of the results. For me, a big part of the deal is producing stuff in a sensible wa

by zoul 14y ago

I think it’s a shame that the organic farming is being reduced to the quality of the results. For me, a big part of the deal is producing stuff in a sensible way, preferably without loads of chemicals and without torture. Not everything that’s labeled as organic was produced in a sensible way, not everything organic has to be better than the “conventional” stuff and yes, organic is a huge marketing force right now, which is a pity. But I take the organic approach as a great way to think and talk about the way we produce our food, and that’s the main advantage of organic food for me.

dizzystar 14y ago
>> * it’s a shame that the organic farming is being reduced to the quality of the results* So, you'd rather eat something that tastes like poo that is "healthy" for you instead? I never understood the people who eat horrid tasting food. >> without torture What torture are we giving to plants exactly? If anything, you would be offering up more torture by buying from organic farms. You have to use more land and use more people humping around under the hot sun for 12 hours to keep up. Farming in many cases is essentially legalized slavery. Asking for "better" food creates a demand for more people to do the work. >> * organic is a huge marketing force right now* Not only is it a huge force, it is a huge farce. What you'd consider organic probably doesn't align with the legal definitions of organic, much less what is marketed as organic. >> a great way to think and talk about the way we produce our food Yes, and the arguments against organic farming are logical, while the arguments for organic farming tend to be emotional. Feed people in Africa on the cheap? So-called inorganic wins. Food that last longer so I don't have to pick through rotten food at the grocery store? Score another for not organic. Buying something that reflects your expectations? Not organic wins again. Tastes better and more healthy? Doesn't seem to be a clear winner.
- pyre 14y ago
  | So, you'd rather eat something that tastes like poo | that is "healthy" for you instead? I never understood | the people who eat horrid tasting food. You're not exactly responding to the most stellar post, but you can at least keep things civil. For instance, you're going off on taste here, when nothing in the parent post, or the article is talking about taste, so why are you? | >> without torture | | What torture are we giving to plants exactly? Do you really think that the parent poster was referring to plants being tortured. I'm not exactly sure what was being referenced, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't plant torture. Again, let's be civil/reasonable here. | Farming in many cases is essentially | legalized slavery. Asking for "better" food | creates a demand for more people to do the | work. Isn't what complaining about food tasting like 'poo' above implicitly demanding better food? | >> * organic is a huge marketing force right | now* | | Not only is it a huge force, it is a huge | farce. What you'd consider organic probably | doesn't align with the legal definitions of | organic, much less what is marketed as | organic. Then let's change the legal guidelines? | >> a great way to think and talk about the way | we produce our food | | Yes, and the arguments against organic farming | are logical, while the arguments for organic | farming tend to be emotional. Right. Run-off and ocean dead-zones are just 'emotional' arguments. | Feed people in Africa on the cheap? So-called | inorganic wins. If you want to feed people in Africa, we need to improve their political situation. You're ignoring all of the food that is destroyed (or not created) in order to manipulate prices. | Food that last longer so I don't have to pick | through rotten food at the grocery store? | Score another for not organic. If your grocery store has rotten food on the shelves, then I suggest a new grocery store. (Note: exagerating your point here comes across as an appeal to emotion that you disapproved of above)

by zoul 14y ago

dizzystar 14y ago

>> * it’s a shame that the organic farming is being reduced to the quality of the results* So, you'd rather eat something that tastes like poo that is "healthy" for you instead? I never understood the people who eat horrid tasting food. >> without torture What torture are we giving to plants exactly? If anything, you would be offering up more torture by buying from organic farms. You have to use more land and use more people humping around under the hot sun for 12 hours to keep up. Farming in many cases is essentially legalized slavery. Asking for "better" food creates a demand for more people to do the work. >> * organic is a huge marketing force right now* Not only is it a huge force, it is a huge farce. What you'd consider organic probably doesn't align with the legal definitions of organic, much less what is marketed as organic. >> a great way to think and talk about the way we produce our food Yes, and the arguments against organic farming are logical, while the arguments for organic farming tend to be emotional. Feed people in Africa on the cheap? So-called inorganic wins. Food that last longer so I don't have to pick through rotten food at the grocery store? Score another for not organic. Buying something that reflects your expectations? Not organic wins again. Tastes better and more healthy? Doesn't seem to be a clear winner.

pyre 14y ago
| So, you'd rather eat something that tastes like poo | that is "healthy" for you instead? I never understood | the people who eat horrid tasting food. You're not exactly responding to the most stellar post, but you can at least keep things civil. For instance, you're going off on taste here, when nothing in the parent post, or the article is talking about taste, so why are you? | >> without torture | | What torture are we giving to plants exactly? Do you really think that the parent poster was referring to plants being tortured. I'm not exactly sure what was being referenced, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't plant torture. Again, let's be civil/reasonable here. | Farming in many cases is essentially | legalized slavery. Asking for "better" food | creates a demand for more people to do the | work. Isn't what complaining about food tasting like 'poo' above implicitly demanding better food? | >> * organic is a huge marketing force right | now* | | Not only is it a huge force, it is a huge | farce. What you'd consider organic probably | doesn't align with the legal definitions of | organic, much less what is marketed as | organic. Then let's change the legal guidelines? | >> a great way to think and talk about the way | we produce our food | | Yes, and the arguments against organic farming | are logical, while the arguments for organic | farming tend to be emotional. Right. Run-off and ocean dead-zones are just 'emotional' arguments. | Feed people in Africa on the cheap? So-called | inorganic wins. If you want to feed people in Africa, we need to improve their political situation. You're ignoring all of the food that is destroyed (or not created) in order to manipulate prices. | Food that last longer so I don't have to pick | through rotten food at the grocery store? | Score another for not organic. If your grocery store has rotten food on the shelves, then I suggest a new grocery store. (Note: exagerating your point here comes across as an appeal to emotion that you disapproved of above)