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Why am I not surprised. Samsung has a history of imo unethical and questionable business practices. Samsung Inflates Galaxy Tab Sales, Gets Busted http://modm

Why am I not surprised. Samsung has a history of imo unethical and questionable business practices. Samsung Inflates Galaxy Tab Sales, Gets Busted http://modmyi.com/content/360-samsung-inflates-galaxy-tab-sales-gets-busted-comments2.html http://modmyi.com/content/360-samsung-inflates-galaxy-tab-sa... Quite smooth: Samsung actually sold 1/10 of the 2 million Galaxy Tabs it claimed in 2010 http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/151854/quite-smooth-samsung-actually-sold-1-10-of-the-2-million-galaxy-tabs-it-claimed-in-2010 http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/151854/quite-smooth-samsung... Looks Like Samsung Pretty Much Lied About US Sales To The Public http://www.macgasm.net/2012/08/10/looks-like-samsung-pretty-much-lied-about-us-sales-to-the-public/ http://www.macgasm.net/2012/08/10/looks-like-samsung-pretty-... Samsung Hires 'Actors' To Pretend To Be Happy Galaxy Tab Testers? http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110325/12360313633/samsung-hires-actors-to-pretend-to-be-happy-galaxy-tab-testers.shtml http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110325/12360313633/samsun... Samsung caught presenting actors as Galaxy Tab "consumers," fudging thinnest tablet claims http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/03/25/samsung_caught_presenting_actors_as_galaxy_tab_consumers_fudging_thinnest_tablet_claims http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/03/25/samsung_caught_pre... Here’s how Samsung flew bloggers halfway around the world, then threatened to leave them there. http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/09/02/heres-samsung-flew-bloggers-halfway-around-world-threatened-leave/?utm_campaign=social%20media&awesm=tnw.to_a4CW&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Spreadus http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/09/02/heres-samsung-flew-... Samsung Caught Fudging Testimonials, and Lying about Galaxy Tab’s Thickness http://techie-buzz.com/gadgets-news/samsung-galaxy-tab-fake-testimonial-thickness.html http://techie-buzz.com/gadgets-news/samsung-galaxy-tab-fake-...

hmottestad 13y ago
That is an amazing list. They seem to be on top there together with Ryanair and european banks.
- hkmurakami 13y ago
  Samsung's antics are hardly contained to smartphones & tablets either.
  - ujjwal_wadhawan 13y ago
    It reminded me of a project we did by analysing the reviews using basic NLP techniques. http://goo.gl/TqhfL http://goo.gl/TqhfL
    - hkmurakami 13y ago
      Oh I had meant that their IP theft isn't limited to mobile devices, but you have a very good point with their reviews in general. (with their oncoming push into notebook computers, I expect similar fraudulent reviews in that area as well)
  - phreanix 13y ago
    "Ethics" in Asia are not the same as the rest of the industrialized world. While I can't speak for Korean ethics, I've had dealings in other Asian countries where business ethics are really more like guidelines, elastic ones at that. I wouldn't be surprised if the execs who sanctioned this behavior on Samsung's part don't even understand that it was wrong.
    - lostlogin 13y ago
      I don't accept this - everyone surely knows its wrong, however its a matter of how wrong. Is it seen to be wrong like driving 5kmh over the speed limit is?
      - anoopelias 13y ago
        Its only a matter of getting used to. If you have been doing this, and you think your competitors are also doing it, after some time, you will (conveniently) forget that it was wrong to begin with.
    - wisty 13y ago
      Right ... and US companies are always ethical, and have always been that way? Or US companies have simply been burt so many times that they know not to play loose with the truth. It's probably worth noting that Korea "chaebol" (conglomerates) can be a little odd. They have a lot of power over the local government and media, so they end up thinking they are invincible. They are sometimes said to be very shady, at times.
- sinnerswing 13y ago
  Forgot to add this: "Tax evasion, bribery and price-fixing: How Samsung became the giant that ate Korea" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/tax-evasion-bribery-and-pricefixing-how-samsung-became-the-giant-that-ate-korea-8510588.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/tax-evasion-bri... "Samsung's rocky legal past paints a picture of scandal and corruption" http://www.theverge.com/policy/2012/8/7/3226651/samsung-legal-history-scandals http://www.theverge.com/policy/2012/8/7/3226651/samsung-lega... "Samsung Bribery Probe Points to Pattern of Graft in South Korea" http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aH3aDwXXnvqc http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a...
dbaupp 13y ago
4/7 of those websites are explicitly pro-Apple, which makes it seem unlikely that they are telling the whole story, given how, unfortunately, these things tend to descend into us-vs-them/clan warfare. (I'm not saying it isn't true, just they aren't necessarily reporting everything.)

hmottestad 13y ago

That is an amazing list. They seem to be on top there together with Ryanair and european banks.

hkmurakami 13y ago
Samsung's antics are hardly contained to smartphones & tablets either.
- ujjwal_wadhawan 13y ago
  It reminded me of a project we did by analysing the reviews using basic NLP techniques. http://goo.gl/TqhfL http://goo.gl/TqhfL
  - hkmurakami 13y ago
    Oh I had meant that their IP theft isn't limited to mobile devices, but you have a very good point with their reviews in general. (with their oncoming push into notebook computers, I expect similar fraudulent reviews in that area as well)
- phreanix 13y ago
  "Ethics" in Asia are not the same as the rest of the industrialized world. While I can't speak for Korean ethics, I've had dealings in other Asian countries where business ethics are really more like guidelines, elastic ones at that. I wouldn't be surprised if the execs who sanctioned this behavior on Samsung's part don't even understand that it was wrong.
  - lostlogin 13y ago
    I don't accept this - everyone surely knows its wrong, however its a matter of how wrong. Is it seen to be wrong like driving 5kmh over the speed limit is?
    - anoopelias 13y ago
      Its only a matter of getting used to. If you have been doing this, and you think your competitors are also doing it, after some time, you will (conveniently) forget that it was wrong to begin with.
  - wisty 13y ago
    Right ... and US companies are always ethical, and have always been that way? Or US companies have simply been burt so many times that they know not to play loose with the truth. It's probably worth noting that Korea "chaebol" (conglomerates) can be a little odd. They have a lot of power over the local government and media, so they end up thinking they are invincible. They are sometimes said to be very shady, at times.
sinnerswing 13y ago
Forgot to add this: "Tax evasion, bribery and price-fixing: How Samsung became the giant that ate Korea" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/tax-evasion-bribery-and-pricefixing-how-samsung-became-the-giant-that-ate-korea-8510588.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/tax-evasion-bri... "Samsung's rocky legal past paints a picture of scandal and corruption" http://www.theverge.com/policy/2012/8/7/3226651/samsung-legal-history-scandals http://www.theverge.com/policy/2012/8/7/3226651/samsung-lega... "Samsung Bribery Probe Points to Pattern of Graft in South Korea" http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aH3aDwXXnvqc http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a...

dbaupp 13y ago

4/7 of those websites are explicitly pro-Apple, which makes it seem unlikely that they are telling the whole story, given how, unfortunately, these things tend to descend into us-vs-them/clan warfare. (I'm not saying it isn't true, just they aren't necessarily reporting everything.)