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Samsung's IP theft issues would lead me to believe that their credo is "whatever it takes to win" and this kind of behavior isn't out of line with their track r

Samsung's IP theft issues would lead me to believe that their credo is "whatever it takes to win" and this kind of behavior isn't out of line with their track record.

kostya-kow 14y ago
>Samsung's IP theft issues You mean the time when Apple tried to patent "0-length-swipe" and a shape of a box?
- threeseed 14y ago
  No I don't. You know why ? Because it never happened.
  - shapeofabox 14y ago
    I think he meant to say "rounded rectangle" not box.
- lostlogin 14y ago
  Yes, because Apple did something bad its ok for Samsung to. What? It's a good thing most people and companies don't work like that.
sinnerswing 14y ago
Why am I not surprised. Samsung has a history of imo unethical and questionable business practices. Samsung Inflates Galaxy Tab Sales, Gets Busted http://modmyi.com/content/360-samsung-inflates-galaxy-tab-sales-gets-busted-comments2.html http://modmyi.com/content/360-samsung-inflates-galaxy-tab-sa... Quite smooth: Samsung actually sold 1/10 of the 2 million Galaxy Tabs it claimed in 2010 http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/151854/quite-smooth-samsung-actually-sold-1-10-of-the-2-million-galaxy-tabs-it-claimed-in-2010 http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/151854/quite-smooth-samsung... Looks Like Samsung Pretty Much Lied About US Sales To The Public http://www.macgasm.net/2012/08/10/looks-like-samsung-pretty-much-lied-about-us-sales-to-the-public/ http://www.macgasm.net/2012/08/10/looks-like-samsung-pretty-... Samsung Hires 'Actors' To Pretend To Be Happy Galaxy Tab Testers? http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110325/12360313633/samsung-hires-actors-to-pretend-to-be-happy-galaxy-tab-testers.shtml http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110325/12360313633/samsun... Samsung caught presenting actors as Galaxy Tab "consumers," fudging thinnest tablet claims http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/03/25/samsung_caught_presenting_actors_as_galaxy_tab_consumers_fudging_thinnest_tablet_claims http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/03/25/samsung_caught_pre... Here’s how Samsung flew bloggers halfway around the world, then threatened to leave them there. http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/09/02/heres-samsung-flew-bloggers-halfway-around-world-threatened-leave/?utm_campaign=social%20media&awesm=tnw.to_a4CW&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Spreadus http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/09/02/heres-samsung-flew-... Samsung Caught Fudging Testimonials, and Lying about Galaxy Tab’s Thickness http://techie-buzz.com/gadgets-news/samsung-galaxy-tab-fake-testimonial-thickness.html http://techie-buzz.com/gadgets-news/samsung-galaxy-tab-fake-...
- hmottestad 14y ago
  That is an amazing list. They seem to be on top there together with Ryanair and european banks.
  - hkmurakami 14y ago
    Samsung's antics are hardly contained to smartphones & tablets either.
    - ujjwal_wadhawan 14y ago
      It reminded me of a project we did by analysing the reviews using basic NLP techniques. http://goo.gl/TqhfL http://goo.gl/TqhfL
      - hkmurakami 14y ago
        Oh I had meant that their IP theft isn't limited to mobile devices, but you have a very good point with their reviews in general. (with their oncoming push into notebook computers, I expect similar fraudulent reviews in that area as well)
    - phreanix 14y ago
      "Ethics" in Asia are not the same as the rest of the industrialized world. While I can't speak for Korean ethics, I've had dealings in other Asian countries where business ethics are really more like guidelines, elastic ones at that. I wouldn't be surprised if the execs who sanctioned this behavior on Samsung's part don't even understand that it was wrong.
      - lostlogin 14y ago
        I don't accept this - everyone surely knows its wrong, however its a matter of how wrong. Is it seen to be wrong like driving 5kmh over the speed limit is?
        14y ago
josteink 14y ago
> Samsung's IP theft issues While this is definitely super-scummy and nasty behaviour from Samsung, it's hard to take any comment seriously when it uses such a flawed new-speak phrase like "IP theft". Even more so when it tries to gain substance by referring to Samsung as the bad guy when "violating" (or "stealing" lol) Apple's rounded rectangle patents. Apple has their bullshit software patents constantly invalidated everywhere in the world except the US. Good thing Samsung footed the legal bill to make that happen.

Samsung's IP theft issues would lead me to believe that their credo is "whatever it takes to win" and this kind of behavior isn't out of line with their track record.

kostya-kow 14y ago

>Samsung's IP theft issues You mean the time when Apple tried to patent "0-length-swipe" and a shape of a box?

threeseed 14y ago
No I don't. You know why ? Because it never happened.
- shapeofabox 14y ago
  I think he meant to say "rounded rectangle" not box.
lostlogin 14y ago
Yes, because Apple did something bad its ok for Samsung to. What? It's a good thing most people and companies don't work like that.

sinnerswing 14y ago

Why am I not surprised. Samsung has a history of imo unethical and questionable business practices. Samsung Inflates Galaxy Tab Sales, Gets Busted http://modmyi.com/content/360-samsung-inflates-galaxy-tab-sales-gets-busted-comments2.html http://modmyi.com/content/360-samsung-inflates-galaxy-tab-sa... Quite smooth: Samsung actually sold 1/10 of the 2 million Galaxy Tabs it claimed in 2010 http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/151854/quite-smooth-samsung-actually-sold-1-10-of-the-2-million-galaxy-tabs-it-claimed-in-2010 http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/151854/quite-smooth-samsung... Looks Like Samsung Pretty Much Lied About US Sales To The Public http://www.macgasm.net/2012/08/10/looks-like-samsung-pretty-much-lied-about-us-sales-to-the-public/ http://www.macgasm.net/2012/08/10/looks-like-samsung-pretty-... Samsung Hires 'Actors' To Pretend To Be Happy Galaxy Tab Testers? http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110325/12360313633/samsung-hires-actors-to-pretend-to-be-happy-galaxy-tab-testers.shtml http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110325/12360313633/samsun... Samsung caught presenting actors as Galaxy Tab "consumers," fudging thinnest tablet claims http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/03/25/samsung_caught_presenting_actors_as_galaxy_tab_consumers_fudging_thinnest_tablet_claims http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/03/25/samsung_caught_pre... Here’s how Samsung flew bloggers halfway around the world, then threatened to leave them there. http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/09/02/heres-samsung-flew-bloggers-halfway-around-world-threatened-leave/?utm_campaign=social%20media&awesm=tnw.to_a4CW&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Spreadus http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/09/02/heres-samsung-flew-... Samsung Caught Fudging Testimonials, and Lying about Galaxy Tab’s Thickness http://techie-buzz.com/gadgets-news/samsung-galaxy-tab-fake-testimonial-thickness.html http://techie-buzz.com/gadgets-news/samsung-galaxy-tab-fake-...

hmottestad 14y ago
That is an amazing list. They seem to be on top there together with Ryanair and european banks.
- hkmurakami 14y ago
  Samsung's antics are hardly contained to smartphones & tablets either.
  - ujjwal_wadhawan 14y ago
    It reminded me of a project we did by analysing the reviews using basic NLP techniques. http://goo.gl/TqhfL http://goo.gl/TqhfL
    - hkmurakami 14y ago
      Oh I had meant that their IP theft isn't limited to mobile devices, but you have a very good point with their reviews in general. (with their oncoming push into notebook computers, I expect similar fraudulent reviews in that area as well)
  - phreanix 14y ago
    "Ethics" in Asia are not the same as the rest of the industrialized world. While I can't speak for Korean ethics, I've had dealings in other Asian countries where business ethics are really more like guidelines, elastic ones at that. I wouldn't be surprised if the execs who sanctioned this behavior on Samsung's part don't even understand that it was wrong.
    - lostlogin 14y ago
      I don't accept this - everyone surely knows its wrong, however its a matter of how wrong. Is it seen to be wrong like driving 5kmh over the speed limit is?
      - 14y ago

josteink 14y ago

> Samsung's IP theft issues While this is definitely super-scummy and nasty behaviour from Samsung, it's hard to take any comment seriously when it uses such a flawed new-speak phrase like "IP theft". Even more so when it tries to gain substance by referring to Samsung as the bad guy when "violating" (or "stealing" lol) Apple's rounded rectangle patents. Apple has their bullshit software patents constantly invalidated everywhere in the world except the US. Good thing Samsung footed the legal bill to make that happen.