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> Basically once you learn Angular you are an Angular programmer from then on Kind of like "once you learn Rails you are a Rails programmer from then on"? I a

• rdtsc 14y ago
  > Correct me if I'm wrong but you sound like someone who isn't a big fan of opinionated frameworks in the first place. I think you are right. I have been burnt by enough frameworks both picked by me or others that promise the world ('really easy, just use this framework! here is an example of a thing X that we did for a demo that kind of looks like something you might want to do'). Then as soon as you do something not anticipated or unimplemented yet in the framework you hit a wall and decelerate from 100 to 0 pretty quickly. I guess a good framework is one that is extensible and straddles the border between a framework and library.
  • marknutter 14y ago
    > I have been burnt by enough frameworks both picked by me or others that promise the world I've definitely been there, too. I think it's one of the risks in using a framework, but like everything you have to weigh the risks against the rewards. > I guess a good framework is one that is extensible and straddles the border between a framework and library. I think Rails did a good job with this. It provides opinionated defaults but allowed people to swap in other libraries as they needed.