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Well, Google used Angular to re-write DoubleClick, so that's a pretty good example of a large scale application using one of these frameworks in the wild. Embe

Well, Google used Angular to re-write DoubleClick, so that's a pretty good example of a large scale application using one of these frameworks in the wild. Ember.js is being used in http://www.discourse.org http://www.discourse.org Anecdotally, my team and I are using Angular.js for our mobile offerings of http://kona.com http://kona.com and have been loving it. I'm not sure why it would be any more difficult to build full-fledged web apps with these frameworks than it would be to use vanilla jQuery or Backbone. Our app has become quite complex and we're still loving Angular.js, for instance. And it's not simply about "getting rid of lines of code", it's also about structure and testability. I can honestly say we haven't had to fight with angular yet but who knows what will happen down the line. For now, we're very happy. > Seeing these comparisons I am increasingly getting the impression the discussion is dominated by people procrastinating from their projects Not sure why this barb is necessary..

corresation 14y ago
It wasn't intended as a barb. If anything it was self-reflection, in that I tend to find myself caught up in essentially trivial things when I get caught in procrastination loops. Perhaps I am projecting.
- marknutter 14y ago
  I read it wrong then. At any rate, fwiw I actually think Ember.js and Angular.js help with procrastination. It's far to easy to get muddled in the details of how to organize a backbone.js or vanilla jQuery application; at least for me. Going with Angular.js let me move forward faster than I would have otherwise.
  - just2n 14y ago
    This is a trade-off that manifests downstream. Highly opinionated there-is-one-right-way frameworks make it easy to get started because you don't have choice, but also get in your way in the long run because you don't have choice, and that also tends to limit what you can do.
    - adamnemecek 14y ago
      At the same time if you don't have much experience with non-opinionated frameworks, you might end up in a state where your code is even less flexible than it would have been with opinionated frameworks.

corresation 14y ago

It wasn't intended as a barb. If anything it was self-reflection, in that I tend to find myself caught up in essentially trivial things when I get caught in procrastination loops. Perhaps I am projecting.

marknutter 14y ago
I read it wrong then. At any rate, fwiw I actually think Ember.js and Angular.js help with procrastination. It's far to easy to get muddled in the details of how to organize a backbone.js or vanilla jQuery application; at least for me. Going with Angular.js let me move forward faster than I would have otherwise.
- just2n 14y ago
  This is a trade-off that manifests downstream. Highly opinionated there-is-one-right-way frameworks make it easy to get started because you don't have choice, but also get in your way in the long run because you don't have choice, and that also tends to limit what you can do.
  - adamnemecek 14y ago
    At the same time if you don't have much experience with non-opinionated frameworks, you might end up in a state where your code is even less flexible than it would have been with opinionated frameworks.