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Enforcing users to use a particular pattern for passwords

3 points by Bughunter101 14y ago

lutusp 14y ago
This article has been entered as a candidate in the international unlimited functional illiteracy sweepstakes. Starting with the title -- "Enforcing users to use a particular pattern for passwords" -- the word the author wanted, but could not find, was "Forcing". Moving on to the first sentence in the article -- "Many websites specially government ones enforce users to use a password which is specific to a particular criteria." "Specially government ones" is a phrase children use below the age of three, before they acquire an instinct for sentence construction. And "a particular criteria" must be "a particular criterion." Further on, we read: "I have found such password pattern are rather hard to follow and if you do, it becomes extremely difficult to remember." This is a perfect self-referential comment on the topic of "hard to follow". We wish this candidate the best of luck -- he certainly earned his place in the running for this prestigious award.
- DanBC 14y ago
  Editing the question on stack exchange would have provided a lot more benefit than your snarky, unhelpful, comment here. Maybe English is not the first language of Salman Ali Ehsan? EDIT: While snarking about someone else's English you've made some errors yourself. > And "a particular criteria" must be "a particular criterion." No. In context the author should have said "particular criteria". The password must match a list of elements, not a single element. > Further on, we read: "I have found such password pattern are rather hard to follow and if you do, it becomes extremely difficult to remember." This is a perfect self-referential comment on the topic of "hard to follow". No. The list of criteria are hard to follow. But if you do follow them you get a password that is hard to remember. Since hard to follow lists provide hard to remember passwords should users be forced to follow the lists of password creation rules? I'm not sure why you're so hung up on "enforced" either. It's not as if it's a bizarre word choice. It's at least an almost correct word choice. > to put or keep in force; compel obedience to: to enforce a rule; "Traffic laws will be strictly enforced."
  - lutusp 14y ago
    > EDIT: While snarking about someone else's English you've made some errors yourself. I invite you to locate one. >> And "a particular criteria" must be "a particular criterion." > No. In context the author should have said "particular criteria". The password must match a list of elements, not a single element. That's not a correction, it's an alternative. Continuing the theme, your second "correction" isn't a correction, it's an editorial comment. > I'm not sure why you're so hung up on "enforced" either. Because it's grammatically incorrect in the context? "Forced" is not "enforced." They refer to different things. "The burglar enforced his way into my house." > It's at least an almost correct word choice. Ah ... almost correct. Thanks for the clarification. But you prefaced it by claiming I had made some errors.
    - DanBC 14y ago
      EDIT: You don't appear to understand why I'm pointing this out. It's less about a discussion of English usage. It was to point out that your initial comment made you sound like a dick. > That's not a correction, it's an alternative. There is a list of criteria. The password must conform to that list of criteria. It doesn't matter if a password only matches one criterion, because if it doesn't match the other criteria it will fail. Thus, your alternative, ' must be "a particular criterion"' with a highlighted must, is incorrect.
      - lutusp 14y ago
        > It was to point out that your initial comment made you sound like a dick. On that basis, you believe yourself to be in a position to criticize my posts based on their tone? Your sense of irony must have been surgically removed. Your correction is an error masquerading as criticism. A password requirement can possess one or more criteria. A single criterion is that it must be at least eight characters in length. Multiple criteria might be that the password must contain punctuation marks and be at least eight characters in length. That means you are wrong, and you have yet to locate an error in my posts.

3 points by Bughunter101 14y ago

This article has been entered as a candidate in the international unlimited functional illiteracy sweepstakes. Starting with the title -- "Enforcing users to use a particular pattern for passwords" -- the word the author wanted, but could not find, was "Forcing". Moving on to the first sentence in the article -- "Many websites specially government ones enforce users to use a password which is specific to a particular criteria." "Specially government ones" is a phrase children use below the age of three, before they acquire an instinct for sentence construction. And "a particular criteria" must be "a particular criterion." Further on, we read: "I have found such password pattern are rather hard to follow and if you do, it becomes extremely difficult to remember." This is a perfect self-referential comment on the topic of "hard to follow". We wish this candidate the best of luck -- he certainly earned his place in the running for this prestigious award.

DanBC 14y ago
Editing the question on stack exchange would have provided a lot more benefit than your snarky, unhelpful, comment here. Maybe English is not the first language of Salman Ali Ehsan? EDIT: While snarking about someone else's English you've made some errors yourself. > And "a particular criteria" must be "a particular criterion." No. In context the author should have said "particular criteria". The password must match a list of elements, not a single element. > Further on, we read: "I have found such password pattern are rather hard to follow and if you do, it becomes extremely difficult to remember." This is a perfect self-referential comment on the topic of "hard to follow". No. The list of criteria are hard to follow. But if you do follow them you get a password that is hard to remember. Since hard to follow lists provide hard to remember passwords should users be forced to follow the lists of password creation rules? I'm not sure why you're so hung up on "enforced" either. It's not as if it's a bizarre word choice. It's at least an almost correct word choice. > to put or keep in force; compel obedience to: to enforce a rule; "Traffic laws will be strictly enforced."
- lutusp 14y ago
  > EDIT: While snarking about someone else's English you've made some errors yourself. I invite you to locate one. >> And "a particular criteria" must be "a particular criterion." > No. In context the author should have said "particular criteria". The password must match a list of elements, not a single element. That's not a correction, it's an alternative. Continuing the theme, your second "correction" isn't a correction, it's an editorial comment. > I'm not sure why you're so hung up on "enforced" either. Because it's grammatically incorrect in the context? "Forced" is not "enforced." They refer to different things. "The burglar enforced his way into my house." > It's at least an almost correct word choice. Ah ... almost correct. Thanks for the clarification. But you prefaced it by claiming I had made some errors.
  - DanBC 14y ago
    EDIT: You don't appear to understand why I'm pointing this out. It's less about a discussion of English usage. It was to point out that your initial comment made you sound like a dick. > That's not a correction, it's an alternative. There is a list of criteria. The password must conform to that list of criteria. It doesn't matter if a password only matches one criterion, because if it doesn't match the other criteria it will fail. Thus, your alternative, ' must be "a particular criterion"' with a highlighted must, is incorrect.
    - lutusp 14y ago
      > It was to point out that your initial comment made you sound like a dick. On that basis, you believe yourself to be in a position to criticize my posts based on their tone? Your sense of irony must have been surgically removed. Your correction is an error masquerading as criticism. A password requirement can possess one or more criteria. A single criterion is that it must be at least eight characters in length. Multiple criteria might be that the password must contain punctuation marks and be at least eight characters in length. That means you are wrong, and you have yet to locate an error in my posts.