It's a pity that Digg also made a grab for the URLs at the same time as they did the framing. Framing, despite all its 1996 squick factor, can be very handy: I'

It's a pity that Digg also made a grab for the URLs at the same time as they did the framing. Framing, despite all its 1996 squick factor, can be very handy: I've often wished HN had a bar similar to Reddit's, and the Google Images frame is good, too. I don't think Gruber goes nearly far enough in explaining his objections, however: he barely bothers beyond an "of course" and appeal to consensus. He does mention that URLs are important, and assumes that people will agree. But if you don't automatically agree, that's not going to carry the argument: after all, the full URL is in the DiggBar, and can be C&Pd by anyone savvy enough to care. Of course, the real problem is with unsavvy users who are going to start passing around URLs that flow via Digg, a blatant landgrab on their part, but he doesn't really explain this. By talking in passing about fights that we had in 1996 he's talking about ancient history to Digg's audience, and they're simply going to assume he's a cantankerous old grump, rather than realising why Digg's actions should be condemned. The "fuck you" page doesn't help this cause either: he could have used it to explain why the seemingly-useful bar's actually a bad idea. Instead, he's just going to piss off the hordes. A wasted opportunity, I think.