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> (As a Dutch person I believe The Netherlands is the greatest country of the world) Uhm, really? As another Dutch person I now suspect you to be a member of s

> (As a Dutch person I believe The Netherlands is the greatest country of the world) Uhm, really? As another Dutch person I now suspect you to be a member of some extreme rightwing ideology (PVV?) because no sane Dutch person I've ever known would say such an absurd thing.

tinco 14y ago
Then you have a naive view of the world around you. Many things suck in other countries that you just don't notice in The Netherlands. Also, viewing your country as great has nothing to do with rightwing ideology. I do not for a second think that past immigration laws have done anything to degrade The Netherlands as a great country. Also, immigration laws (PVV's main issue) have nothing to do with rightwing ideology, it is merely associated with it due to conservationists often being right wing. Hitler for example was famous for his dislike of immigrants and also was a leftist. Also, please don't post dumb assumptions over other peoples ideologies on public websites..
- onli 14y ago
  Hitler was not left.
  - tinco 14y ago
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Could_Hitler_be_described_as_right-wing_or_left-wing http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Could_Hitler_be_described_as_right...
    - onli 14y ago
      Sorry, random rambling on the internet doesn't count. The nsdap had a left, socialist wing. Most of the members of that wing were executed, which is a good indicatior on how much Hitler himself agreed with them. He himself didn't had many political views one could describe as left, that there are similarities in the methods is mainly a coincidence. Your linked article is plainly wrong in that regard, the nationalization of industries for example didn't really happen after the Kapital agreed to cooperate (and ideologically, nationalization of industries in a facist regime is something else entirely than in a communist one). For a good article about the subject, read http://www.h-ref.de/organisationen/nsdap/nazis-sozialisten.php http://www.h-ref.de/organisationen/nsdap/nazis-sozialisten.p.... Anyway, I don't think we should discuss this any further here, it is OT.
      - tinco 14y ago
        You could've just said, "Hitler was not left, despite being in a nationalist socialist party he focused mainly on national goals and left the capitalists for what they were." My german is not so good, so I read the wikipedia article on the history of the socialist part of the nsdap and it seems you are right, there was not much of a leftist in him.

tinco 14y ago

Then you have a naive view of the world around you. Many things suck in other countries that you just don't notice in The Netherlands. Also, viewing your country as great has nothing to do with rightwing ideology. I do not for a second think that past immigration laws have done anything to degrade The Netherlands as a great country. Also, immigration laws (PVV's main issue) have nothing to do with rightwing ideology, it is merely associated with it due to conservationists often being right wing. Hitler for example was famous for his dislike of immigrants and also was a leftist. Also, please don't post dumb assumptions over other peoples ideologies on public websites..

onli 14y ago
Hitler was not left.
- tinco 14y ago
  http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Could_Hitler_be_described_as_right-wing_or_left-wing http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Could_Hitler_be_described_as_right...
  - onli 14y ago
    Sorry, random rambling on the internet doesn't count. The nsdap had a left, socialist wing. Most of the members of that wing were executed, which is a good indicatior on how much Hitler himself agreed with them. He himself didn't had many political views one could describe as left, that there are similarities in the methods is mainly a coincidence. Your linked article is plainly wrong in that regard, the nationalization of industries for example didn't really happen after the Kapital agreed to cooperate (and ideologically, nationalization of industries in a facist regime is something else entirely than in a communist one). For a good article about the subject, read http://www.h-ref.de/organisationen/nsdap/nazis-sozialisten.php http://www.h-ref.de/organisationen/nsdap/nazis-sozialisten.p.... Anyway, I don't think we should discuss this any further here, it is OT.
    - tinco 14y ago
      You could've just said, "Hitler was not left, despite being in a nationalist socialist party he focused mainly on national goals and left the capitalists for what they were." My german is not so good, so I read the wikipedia article on the history of the socialist part of the nsdap and it seems you are right, there was not much of a leftist in him.