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Ask HN: What ecommerce platform do you use?

8 points by danecjensen 13y ago

I've been setting up shopify today. But it seems overly complicated. I was wondering if there are better solutions out there.

danso 13y ago
I built a site on shopify. It's actually quite easy but the trade off is cost and some flexibility in how checkout is handled.
dangrossman 13y ago
For relatively simple stores, Shopify's the best. I have yet to meet someone that can't manage their own store through it after I set it up for them, and the app store provides incredible value. The stuff you can plug into your store is so much more polished and higher value than the "plugins" available for most self-hosted carts. Want to run a remarketing campaign to bring back window shoppers? There's an app for that. Want to e-mail people who abandoned shopping carts with a coupon to finish their purchase? There's an app for that. Want an e-mail telling you the traffic source of each sale when it occurs? There's an app for that. Want to plug in your favorite analytics companies without touching the theme code? There's an app for that.
DigitalSea 13y ago
If you're familiar with advanced PHP, Magento is a great choice however be prepared for a lot of head-banging. I'm pretty comfortable with Magento and it's one of the more advanced self-managed eCommerce platforms out there that handles everything from stock control to integration with every payment gateway imaginable. If automatic is more your thing Shopify is a great choice.
- mailslot 13y ago
  Magento is great... except if you plan to sell more than 50 items per minute while sustaining a few dozen page views per second. It's near impossible to scale beyond its upper cap. 10,000's of files / classes, 100's of tables and 300+ SQL queries for coupon processing.
  - DigitalSea 13y ago
    I think that rings true for most self-hosted eCommerce applications though (or any self-hosted application written in PHP), not just Magento. In the right hands Magento can be tuned to handle hundreds and thousands of orders a second if you want it too. If Wordpress can scale, Magento can scale too. We used it to build a large online shoe store here at my employer and it seems to handle the traffic quite well, AWS is a godsend.
jgbt 13y ago
Depends on your goals. If you want simple and are just starting off and testing things out to see if what you're offering will sell, then Shopify. The biggest problem I see with Shopify is customizing the checkout. The checkout process is hugely important in optimizing the site for conversions, and to lose control over that piece of the site is a difficult trade off. I used Volusion for my store, but they've gone downhill. I would probably end up with BigCommerce these days. Magento is the best out there, but only if you've got the money and time to spend. I wouldn't walk into a Magento store unless I had $50k to spend and was very sure I'd bring in revenue of at least $500k a year. If you're not there yet, go with a hosted cart so you can focus on the marketing and get to market quickly.
- karolisd 13y ago
  So, Shopify doesn't allow you do change anything in the checkout?
maguay 13y ago
I've been using WooCommerce on WordPress recently to build an eCommerce shop, and keep butting heads with it. It's incredibly hard to theme and tweak. Plus, there's so much WordPress stuff that is redundant in it. It's rather much a mess, and I wouldn't overly recommend it, even though I really wanted to love it.
tamersalama 13y ago
SquareSpace started offering an ecommerce option too. Haven't tried it out though.
sgold515 13y ago
Slant has a good thread on the topic http://slant.co/topics/586 http://slant.co/topics/586
fastspring 13y ago
See FastSpring if you're looking to sell SaaS or downloadable software or games. No upfront or monthly costs, limitless, rapid-response support, free setup, and it's uniquely full service.

8 points by danecjensen 13y ago

I've been setting up shopify today. But it seems overly complicated. I was wondering if there are better solutions out there.

danso 13y ago

I built a site on shopify. It's actually quite easy but the trade off is cost and some flexibility in how checkout is handled.

dangrossman 13y ago

For relatively simple stores, Shopify's the best. I have yet to meet someone that can't manage their own store through it after I set it up for them, and the app store provides incredible value. The stuff you can plug into your store is so much more polished and higher value than the "plugins" available for most self-hosted carts. Want to run a remarketing campaign to bring back window shoppers? There's an app for that. Want to e-mail people who abandoned shopping carts with a coupon to finish their purchase? There's an app for that. Want an e-mail telling you the traffic source of each sale when it occurs? There's an app for that. Want to plug in your favorite analytics companies without touching the theme code? There's an app for that.

DigitalSea 13y ago

If you're familiar with advanced PHP, Magento is a great choice however be prepared for a lot of head-banging. I'm pretty comfortable with Magento and it's one of the more advanced self-managed eCommerce platforms out there that handles everything from stock control to integration with every payment gateway imaginable. If automatic is more your thing Shopify is a great choice.

mailslot 13y ago
Magento is great... except if you plan to sell more than 50 items per minute while sustaining a few dozen page views per second. It's near impossible to scale beyond its upper cap. 10,000's of files / classes, 100's of tables and 300+ SQL queries for coupon processing.
- DigitalSea 13y ago
  I think that rings true for most self-hosted eCommerce applications though (or any self-hosted application written in PHP), not just Magento. In the right hands Magento can be tuned to handle hundreds and thousands of orders a second if you want it too. If Wordpress can scale, Magento can scale too. We used it to build a large online shoe store here at my employer and it seems to handle the traffic quite well, AWS is a godsend.

jgbt 13y ago

Depends on your goals. If you want simple and are just starting off and testing things out to see if what you're offering will sell, then Shopify. The biggest problem I see with Shopify is customizing the checkout. The checkout process is hugely important in optimizing the site for conversions, and to lose control over that piece of the site is a difficult trade off. I used Volusion for my store, but they've gone downhill. I would probably end up with BigCommerce these days. Magento is the best out there, but only if you've got the money and time to spend. I wouldn't walk into a Magento store unless I had $50k to spend and was very sure I'd bring in revenue of at least $500k a year. If you're not there yet, go with a hosted cart so you can focus on the marketing and get to market quickly.

karolisd 13y ago
So, Shopify doesn't allow you do change anything in the checkout?

maguay 13y ago

I've been using WooCommerce on WordPress recently to build an eCommerce shop, and keep butting heads with it. It's incredibly hard to theme and tweak. Plus, there's so much WordPress stuff that is redundant in it. It's rather much a mess, and I wouldn't overly recommend it, even though I really wanted to love it.

tamersalama 13y ago

SquareSpace started offering an ecommerce option too. Haven't tried it out though.

sgold515 13y ago

Slant has a good thread on the topic http://slant.co/topics/586 http://slant.co/topics/586

fastspring 13y ago

See FastSpring if you're looking to sell SaaS or downloadable software or games. No upfront or monthly costs, limitless, rapid-response support, free setup, and it's uniquely full service.