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The DRM doesn't happen in the browser, it happens either in the OS or on a hardware component. Encrypted Media Extension just provides a way to communication wi

The DRM doesn't happen in the browser, it happens either in the OS or on a hardware component. Encrypted Media Extension just provides a way to communication with the DRM component. It's up to the web page to choose what type of DRM they accept. Expect most to require DRM on the hardware. This means "premium" video is going to be fragmented. Big companies like Apple, Samsung, Microsoft will get it, open source operating systems and DIY devices will not.

laumars 14y ago
> This means "premium" video is going to be fragmented. Big companies like Apple, Samsung, Microsoft will get it, open source operating systems and DIY devices will not. People said the same about DVD and bluray DRM, yet they've been cracked and open source drivers distributed. Though it's sad that it ever had to come to that.
- fungi 14y ago
  cracked and work's out of the box are two different things... practically and legally. i dont care about netflix... like the vast majority of the internet, they dont even operate in my market. yet their greed is going to fragment the internet that i make a living from... all they are doing is ramming a new version of shitty proprietary plugins/binary blobs down our throats.
  - laumars 14y ago
    > cracked and work's out of the box are two different things... practically and legally. libdvdcss works out of the box and is completely legal in Europe. It's the Americans that stand to lose more by imposing DRM extensions on the internet. At least if they're part of HTML, the technology can be reverse engineered and made cross-platform. With the current mess we're stuck with having to run Silverlight DRM extensions in WINE. So as much as I hate DRM, I'd sooner see it part of an open and cross platform spec than have content locked to specific software that only runs on specific platforms.
    - fungi 14y ago
      > open and cross platform Fail to see how this is anymore open and cross platform then NPAPI. > content locked to specific software that only runs on specific platforms. that is exactly what this delivers.
jaggederest 14y ago
The issue still stands - you could easily engineer a component that just pipes the output directly to disk instead of displaying it.
- bzbarsky 14y ago
  That depends. If the DRM black-box is talking directly to the display hardware, you might not be able to do this. Of course then your video will also not be subject to things like CSS opacity, clips, rounded corners, etc, etc...

laumars 14y ago

> This means "premium" video is going to be fragmented. Big companies like Apple, Samsung, Microsoft will get it, open source operating systems and DIY devices will not. People said the same about DVD and bluray DRM, yet they've been cracked and open source drivers distributed. Though it's sad that it ever had to come to that.

fungi 14y ago
cracked and work's out of the box are two different things... practically and legally. i dont care about netflix... like the vast majority of the internet, they dont even operate in my market. yet their greed is going to fragment the internet that i make a living from... all they are doing is ramming a new version of shitty proprietary plugins/binary blobs down our throats.
- laumars 14y ago
  > cracked and work's out of the box are two different things... practically and legally. libdvdcss works out of the box and is completely legal in Europe. It's the Americans that stand to lose more by imposing DRM extensions on the internet. At least if they're part of HTML, the technology can be reverse engineered and made cross-platform. With the current mess we're stuck with having to run Silverlight DRM extensions in WINE. So as much as I hate DRM, I'd sooner see it part of an open and cross platform spec than have content locked to specific software that only runs on specific platforms.
  - fungi 14y ago
    > open and cross platform Fail to see how this is anymore open and cross platform then NPAPI. > content locked to specific software that only runs on specific platforms. that is exactly what this delivers.

jaggederest 14y ago

The issue still stands - you could easily engineer a component that just pipes the output directly to disk instead of displaying it.

bzbarsky 14y ago
That depends. If the DRM black-box is talking directly to the display hardware, you might not be able to do this. Of course then your video will also not be subject to things like CSS opacity, clips, rounded corners, etc, etc...