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Can someone just run a plain marathon without having to worry about this in modern civilized life? Come on. This isn't even crime, this is just insanity.

lukifer 14y ago
I'm willing to bet that running in a marathon is still statistically safer than taking the same trip in a car. No more how much modern life keeps improving, tragedies will happen, whether by natural disasters or nutjobs. Actively fearing that which is outside of your control is pointless.
- JacobJans 14y ago
  No, it's not pointless. It lets us plan, alerts us to potential consequences, and motivates us to take action that might have a long term impact, among many other things.
- SoftwareMaven 14y ago
  And yet I'm sure we will all see some more civil rights displaced as fearmongers jump at the opportunity. :(
- eruditely 14y ago
  I've made no claims of my fear of marathons or that I will not attend them, I'm afraid of the total risk of conducting such affairs in life, I'm not the person who avoided planes because of 9/11 forever afterward. It was merely a simple remark of disgust.
- pjreddie 14y ago
  Well walking is way more dangerous per mile than driving, this was touched on by Steve Levitt in Super Freakonomics, it looks like in Britain the mortality rate is about 10 times higher per vehicle mile http://road.cc/content/news/68212-dft-casualty-statistics-rank-driving-cycling-walking-and-motorcycling-risk http://road.cc/content/news/68212-dft-casualty-statistics-ra.... Of course, that is general foot transportation. Marathons have different risk factors, you aren't going to get hit by a car (if it's a well organized marathon with a set path and stuff) but I bet there are a lot of medical issues that arise from marathons and overexertion. If I were a betting man, I'd think the marathon was probably more dangerous.
  - mongol 14y ago
    Risk per hour is what I am personally more interested in.
    - pjreddie 14y ago
      That's interesting, I don't generally think to myself, "Hm, I could go drive around for an hour or I could go for an hour long walk", I usually think "Hm, I could drive to this place or bike over there (I don't usually walk)". Although I also don't really think about the risks of everyday activities anyway, so who knows. It's really difficult to compare the risks of walking vs driving since usually they aren't really interchangeable and they have such different use cases. But the original comment was about running a marathon vs driving the same distance.
coldtea 14y ago
>Can someone just run a plain marathon without having to worry about this in modern civilized life? In lots of places in the world, no.
tomjen3 14y ago
Apparently not. I know it is too early to speculate, but my money is on the muslims -- homegrown terrorists/IRA use car bombs and you couldn't get a car there, crazy people seem overwellmingly to prefer guns.
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- peter-fogg 14y ago
  I'm sure "the Muslims" all get together, all 1.5 billion of them, to discuss their next bombing target. Please distinguish between a small group of violent extremists and a major world religion.
- throwaway04583 14y ago
  Wow, racist much?
  - seivan 14y ago
    Muslims != Race. Jeez. There are iranians and arabs arguing against islamic fundamentalists getting into Swedish politics. You know, those homophobes who "like" al-qaida on Facebook

lukifer 14y ago

I'm willing to bet that running in a marathon is still statistically safer than taking the same trip in a car. No more how much modern life keeps improving, tragedies will happen, whether by natural disasters or nutjobs. Actively fearing that which is outside of your control is pointless.

JacobJans 14y ago
No, it's not pointless. It lets us plan, alerts us to potential consequences, and motivates us to take action that might have a long term impact, among many other things.
SoftwareMaven 14y ago
And yet I'm sure we will all see some more civil rights displaced as fearmongers jump at the opportunity. :(
eruditely 14y ago
I've made no claims of my fear of marathons or that I will not attend them, I'm afraid of the total risk of conducting such affairs in life, I'm not the person who avoided planes because of 9/11 forever afterward. It was merely a simple remark of disgust.
pjreddie 14y ago
Well walking is way more dangerous per mile than driving, this was touched on by Steve Levitt in Super Freakonomics, it looks like in Britain the mortality rate is about 10 times higher per vehicle mile http://road.cc/content/news/68212-dft-casualty-statistics-rank-driving-cycling-walking-and-motorcycling-risk http://road.cc/content/news/68212-dft-casualty-statistics-ra.... Of course, that is general foot transportation. Marathons have different risk factors, you aren't going to get hit by a car (if it's a well organized marathon with a set path and stuff) but I bet there are a lot of medical issues that arise from marathons and overexertion. If I were a betting man, I'd think the marathon was probably more dangerous.
- mongol 14y ago
  Risk per hour is what I am personally more interested in.
  - pjreddie 14y ago
    That's interesting, I don't generally think to myself, "Hm, I could go drive around for an hour or I could go for an hour long walk", I usually think "Hm, I could drive to this place or bike over there (I don't usually walk)". Although I also don't really think about the risks of everyday activities anyway, so who knows. It's really difficult to compare the risks of walking vs driving since usually they aren't really interchangeable and they have such different use cases. But the original comment was about running a marathon vs driving the same distance.

coldtea 14y ago

>Can someone just run a plain marathon without having to worry about this in modern civilized life? In lots of places in the world, no.

tomjen3 14y ago

Apparently not. I know it is too early to speculate, but my money is on the muslims -- homegrown terrorists/IRA use car bombs and you couldn't get a car there, crazy people seem overwellmingly to prefer guns.

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peter-fogg 14y ago
I'm sure "the Muslims" all get together, all 1.5 billion of them, to discuss their next bombing target. Please distinguish between a small group of violent extremists and a major world religion.
throwaway04583 14y ago
Wow, racist much?
- seivan 14y ago
  Muslims != Race. Jeez. There are iranians and arabs arguing against islamic fundamentalists getting into Swedish politics. You know, those homophobes who "like" al-qaida on Facebook