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While stuck with the dreaded neighbor "hey, you're a computer guy" support visit It was a real eyeopener about the ux of crapware laden toolbar filled ie9 win 7
by trotsky 13y ago
While stuck with the dreaded neighbor "hey, you're a computer guy" support visit It was a real eyeopener about the ux of crapware laden toolbar filled ie9 win 7 experience. No wonder some people just hate computers.
What struck me the most was how she gets her email. FIOS set her up with their webmail, so she clicks on the bookmark, it shows a progress bar for 5 seconds while i assume it's pulling your customer info. Once that clears they showed a full page interstitial about some verizon product and i think lacked any skip button.
Once that cleared they showed what amounted to an old school portal - about a third was verizon info/support/ok apps, but then the rest was filled with some crap news feed inserts a few product upsell teasers, and i think a third party ad or two.
Ok click on email, normal login page, open email app. So this thing has a Verizon top banner that's huge, like 25% or 30% of her screen that is framed and never scrolls off. It takes two clicks just to make it show her inbox instead of a blank content area.
The app wasn't terrible, just maybe circa 2002 or so with only a few of the controls disguising themselves as the background. Usable enough as long as you don't mind the actual mail/composer only getting about 25% of the screen real estate. The kicker was the timeout - "for her protection" it kills her idle session after somewhere around 10-20 minutes at which point it pops up a modal dialog about being logged out, then pops it up again after you hit ok. Then it's back to stage 1 (5 second progress bar) and the experience begins anew including the interstitial and submitting you email credentials again.
I know telcos do some of the worst software engineering on earth, but jesus. No wonder some people consider the web as shitty and just want to get whatever task they need to use it for over with.
And no, I didn't really do much to improve it aside from exiling the toolbars and some shittier than average bestbuy run at login crap ware. I feel shitty about not making it at least not terrible, but that's hours to set things up right + a few hours of instruction + then the support calls come :/ And then the neighbor she told the story to calls.
It sucks that things like geeksquad are so shitty and are prone to upselling crap and exploiting technophobes. And I assume the it pro flier sector is at least as bad on average. Because if you're a novice and don't have a relative that's ok you're basically stuck.
And yet I made her swear twice that she won't tell any of her friends that I helped her.
[1] Ok, yeah, I guess I got a bit off topic there. But fios portal webmail is shitty.
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- cleis 13y agoAre geeksquad that bad? My dad uses them (although he's very far from being a technophobe - despite spending a lot of time missing MS-DOS) and has had nothing but a good experience as far as I know.
- jaredandrews 13y agoThere are many terrible reviews of Geek Squad online mostly in the form of reddit threads and the like. Like most issues related to services like this I suspect the people who have had bad experiences with Geek Squad are very loud but they aren't large enough in number to represent the average case.
- trotsky 13y agoWell, I only have one real datapoint, but I took a look at a laptop a grandmother type had brought to them for help but probably didn't do a very good job explaining what was wrong. It sounded like her email had stopped going in or out, but I had to prompt her a bit. I can't remember precisely what the services rendered were but it came to something close to 200, they sold her a new AV despite her current subscription, av added a toolbar, installed some kind of system cleaner that deleted temp files and browser caches and such once a day, charged her for a "full tuneup" which was nearly half the cost and seemed like maybe a defrag, and $25 to fix her outlook - seems like she had managed to switch to a new blank profile so no mail, no settings, so they switched her back. I mean, I guess they did fix her problem and I doubt youd have much trouble with them if you have a basic clue, but the people who need that service the most are the exact same ones that have no way to tell if they really do need this thing they're telling you is critical. Plus I've seen enough online discussion about what techs employer unknown find on hard drives and how much their boss or 4chan enjoyed it to suspect that line of business may not have the strongest of ethical cultures.
- pointyhatuk 13y agoYou have obviously never used Lotus Notes in the early '00s then! Same grade turd, just with a bigger price tag and more consultants than you can shake a shitty stick at. Nostalgia here: http://coderjournal.com/2008/02/lotus-notes-aol-corporate-world/ http://coderjournal.com/2008/02/lotus-notes-aol-corporate-wo... vom