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> The double standard of what human rights mean if you are a US citizen and if you aren't makes me physically ill. I also think that is profoundly unjust, and
by zamryok 13y ago
> The double standard of what human rights mean if you are a US citizen and if you aren't makes me physically ill.
I also think that is profoundly unjust, and unfortunately it is not simply a question of being a US citizen or not: US citizens who are arab or muslim are more likely to be suspected of acts that could be considered to lie within the vague legal category of Terrorism. So it seems that non-muslim and non-arab people (whether US citizens or european citizens or otherwise) are less likely to be subjected to exceptional treatment, to be detained without trial or be killed in extra-judicial assasinations etc. It seems the divide is more on a racial/ethnic line than a US-citizenship line.
- gitmothrow 13y agoWhy is it unjust to spend limited FBI resources focusing on high risk groups? Do you think they should be monitoring bridge games at nursing homes? Do you think that Arab and Muslim Americans have never been involved in domestic terrorist operations?
- rooshdi 13y agoYou're making very strong allegations towards a group of humans solely based on their ethnicity or religion.
- gitmothrow 13y agoNope. I have made no 'allegations'.
- rooshdi 13y agoThen what are you implying by your third question?
- zamryok 13y agoSome people are not considered "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law". That is what I find unjust. I can accept focusing on "high-risk groups" (although one should question how this definition of a high-risk group is constructed), monitoring them, and trying them in court. What is unjust is punishing them without a fair trial.
- rayiner 13y agoIt is absolutely not a racial/ethnic thing. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamdi_v._Rumsfeld http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamdi_v._Rumsfeld. They found a Saudi who was a U.S. Citizen (born in Louisiana), fighting in Afghanistan, and took him to Guantanamo. The Supreme Court ordered him released, and the government complied.