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| I'll put islamism in that bag (the basic idea | of stoning to death women who had sexual relation | outside of marriage in this day and age is not | ver
by pyre 14y ago
| I'll put islamism in that bag (the basic idea
| of stoning to death women who had sexual relation
| outside of marriage in this day and age is not
| very palatable to me).
It's my understanding that rules like that (e.g. stoning) are not in the Qur'an, but are 'old' rules thought up by different sects of Islam.
1. This is like decrying Christianity as a cult because of David Koresh. Or getting angry at all Christians because the Catholic church tried to cover up the whole paedophile priest thing.
2. Even people that are part of these sects don't necessarily follow all of the rules. E.g. I've known Jewish people that ate ham.
- guylhem 14y agoI'm not for or against any religion. It's all a matter of proportion. How many Koresh are there? Enough to put beheading/stoning/etc. videos on youtube ? Islam seems to have the #1 "bad spot" at the time. I feel very sorry about that, because as the human race it's like trying to advance without the help of a whole third of world population - and the worst thing is we do not let the people who refuse such belief system immigrate easily in democratic countries. Just look at the way muslims (and apostates) emigrating from north africa to europe are treated. At the moment we are wasting a lot of human potential, and that's sad. Hopefully things will change [even if I'm not sure about it when I see the "antilibertarian" downvotes posts, without even taking a minute to express why they think it does not contribute to the discussion. I guess I should know better about liberals and their so called values :-/] EDIT: I was talking about the 1st post, about reaon, which took multiple downvotes but not a single dissenting reply in about 2 minutes. Prove me wrong, give me arguments to challenge my position - I'm begging for them. But no, nothing at all. And my attitude is the problem ?? It's like watching a reddit gang in operation, sorry
- pyre 14y ago| I guess I should know better about | liberals and their so called values I'd say that the downvotes are more aimed at your attitude ("People downvoting me? It's those damn Liberals!"). It's like you're taking cues from Rush Limbaugh.
- eli_gottlieb 14y agoThere's also the fact that he's treating Ayn Rand as a serious philosopher instead of a base political propagandist.
- guylhem 14y agoRead John Rawls first work, read Ayn Rand. See the parrallels yourselves. Only the first one was acknowledge by the establishment, while the second one was not. Interestingly, they process more or less the same way, and come to very similar conclusions. I don't need a chocolate medal given by the government to an author to decide whether it is worth reading or not. If you do, and if you hate libertarianism, read about Rawls. The guy received a medal from Clinton - that's as liberal as it gets.
- eli_gottlieb 14y agoYou mistakenly believe the political spectrum stops at "big government worshiping liberals". I'm a freaking socialist, I'll abolish your private property as soon as look at you.
- anoncow 14y agoAFAIK Stoning is from an authentic hadith. An interesting point that could be used to decrease this is Islam frowns on bitching and backbiting. So...