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Have you ever checked a reference from a book? I don't think hardly anyone ever does, really. Much less than reading an article on the web (when it's just a lin
by tripzilch 14y ago
Have you ever checked a reference from a book? I don't think hardly anyone ever does, really. Much less than reading an article on the web (when it's just a link to click). I did, once, for an anecdote in Black Swan about statisticians goofing a relatively trivial statistics riddle. Something I found a tad hard to believe, plus the book had been a bit thin on theory[0] so I was itching for some meat. After locating the "cited" paper, it turned out Taleb changed some major "details" to fit his narrative, claiming something entirely different than what the research actually investigated (roughly: they weren't statisticians, but psychologists picked at a psychology convention, and the quiz question was not at all trivial, more like a tough exam test question, and not even vaguely similar or of the same "shape" as the story's riddle--making exactly zero elements of his anecdote actually truthful).
It is harder to check a book's bibliography, though. Sometimes the cited paper isn't publicly available, or sometimes the author cites a book you don't have (often their own books), and really in this day and age it's a little bit much to ask your audience to make a trip to the library just to check if an author isn't taking an extreme artistic license or even just making shit up.
I got a bit disillusioned after this tale. And definitely a lot more skeptical about "these types of book", you know the kind that weaves a lovely narrative "supported" by actual (pop) science research. The juicier the anecdotes, the more skeptical you should be.
And apparently this is still a pitfall even if the general premise of the book is right! (the core idea behind Black Swan I pretty much agree with--it just happens so that the very first reference I picked at random to check, turned out to be full of shit)
[0] One of Taleb's previous works, Fooled by Randomness, is roughly about the same topic, but goes into (a little bit) more technical detail. I enjoyed it a lot better. Also, it doesn't feel the need to make a stab at the French every third page or so (something that really puzzled me in Black Swan, maybe it was an in-joke between him and Mandelbrot?).
- varjag 14y agoGood catch. I also check references sometimes, mostly when narrative is unexpected or unconventional. Often the superficially striking theory quickly falls apart when the references from sources cited are either taken out of context or distorted to author's liking.
- gbog 14y agoI'm reading Antifragile these days and being French myself I can assure you that Taleb is very Frenchy himself, and stabbing at the French is in itself extremely Frenchy.
- anigbrowl 14y agoHave you ever checked a reference from a book? Yes, frequently. I'm not endorsing this particular book but I find the assertion quite plausible because I was familiar with the history of monastic prayer schedules that included getting up in the middle of the night. really in this day and age it's a little bit much to ask your audience to make a trip to the library I like going to the library myself, and with access to so many reference books online I find it easier than ever to check things. I can't help feeling that you're projecting your disappointment with Taleb's book onto this one.