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Twitter Music will integrate Spotify, Rdio, iTunes, Soundcloud, Vevo and Youtube
- mehrzad 13y agoBut not Last.fm? I hope that's not true. Honestly slightly annoyed that each of these social media companies want to become everything for everyone.
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- rhizome 13y agoThey are never going to be everything for everyone as long as they hitch their fortunes to the old licensing regime, in which case this group is more of a trade organization for rate negotiations.
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- pokoleo 13y agoWe Are Hunted was acquired by twitter, and allowed you to stream to last.fm.
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- smosher 13y agoLast.fm was excluded due to "licensing issues." I don't mean that literally, I mean that in the same sense last.fm uses it when presenting it as an excuse for the downward spiral they pretend is a service. Whether they're inflexible with regards to any kind of deal with Twitter or, or Twitter was uninterested in including them, it's their own fault—and direct a product of whatever "licensing issues" really means.
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- randomdrake 13y agoNice find, but I think it's a pretty big jump to say that because there's CSS rules for something that it will necessarily be in the final product.
- suyash 13y agoTrue but it's a pretty good indicator. I'll put my money on it.
- hkmurakami 13y ago>Twitter Music will integrate Spotify, Rdio, iTunes, Soundcloud, Vevo and Youtube It will then proceed to eliminate integration one by one as Twitter Music proper gains traction and mindshare. Unfortunately this is going to be the consensus attitude towards anything Twitter & 3rd party. We just have to look at things with suspicion and cynicism. Call it mental-self-defense if you will. (Come to think of it, "partner with someone until we catch up to them, then shut them out" is fairly standard practice in the manufacturing/hardware companies in the past.)
- josh2600 13y agoI would normally agree with you, but I think you're failing to make a distinction here. We, the peasants, get a different level of access to Twitter than say Google or iTunes might. There's no chance that Twitter can afford to cut off access to iTunes as it scales because iTunes is much bigger than Twitter. Whereas Twitter can afford to bully the small companies of the world, they cannot bully Apple or Google. In short, using Twitter API's is suicide. Partnering with Twitter could still foster some potential profit.
- hkmurakami 13y agoAgreed with you overall. Just one caveat. >In short, using Twitter API's is suicide. Partnering with Twitter could still foster some potential profit. If you're smaller than Twitter, be somewhat wary of what might happen to said partnership in the future. Make sure you don't become obsolete in Twitter's eyes.
- josh2600 13y agoGreat point. I'd argue that a partnership with Twitter is amongst two equal (or near equal) parties OR one where Twitter is the smaller player. A non-partnership relationship is all relationships with Twitter that are between Twitter and a smaller organization. It's completely asinine to have two separate policies for small kids and big kids, yet that's what we see at Twitter. Is this an example of the 80/20 rule or something more sinister? I'm not sure. One thing's for certain: I hate Twitter's monetization strategy not because it doesn't work but because I find it distasteful.
- jechen 13y agoDo we really need another music app? How many of us are (or planning to) use Twitter for music discovery? For the average consumer, Spotify has just about everything for anyone. For the avid listener, there are hundreds of quality music blogs dedicated every niche out there. It seems like Twitter decided they wanted a slice of the pie- I fail to see how this could possibly fit into my use case for Twitter (if it's even part of the core product at all). That being said, I hope they prove me wrong.
- Splendor 13y agoI use Spotify as my primary music listening service and their music discovery is terrible. I'll gladly listen to Spotify through Twitter if it means better charts of new music, popular music, etc.
- onedev 13y agoUse Spotify for music library management and access across all platforms. Use Pandora for music discovery. Problem solved!
- jervisfm 13y agoMy dream wish is if someone could make a Pandora-like app ( both of in terms of functionality and quality) built on top of Spotify. I know spotify offers some API but don't know if this would be possible. IIRC Pandora has a catalog size of about 1 million vs ~20 million for Spotify and yet they have been able to do a superb job in song recommendations. I find Spotify radio to be pretty terrible at this.
- weisser 13y agoIt exists for mobile - SpotOn Radio. Powered by Spotify and Echonest. You need a premium Spotify account but it's a super slick experience. http://spoton-radio.com/ http://spoton-radio.com/
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- pokoleo 13y agoObviously this is just the beginning. wearehunted.com just announced it's acquisition by twitter.
- astalwick 13y agoFor what it's worth, I hope that twitter is able to put something interesting out there. They bought up wearehunted, which was a genuinely slick site - excellent trending music charts. I'm a little concerned that they'll try too hard to 'integrate' it with twitter. I'm not that interested in hearing the music that the people I follow on twitter listen to, nor am I interested in reading about how good a musician's latte tasted this morning. It seems to me that twitter and music are somewhat separate. (Full disclosure: I work for https://wavo.me https://wavo.me , which is a social network for music).
- jonathanjaeger 13y agoI'm probably an outlier in that I actively look for music on YouTube, SoundCloud, ex.fm, etc. and prefer it not given to me via playlists or channels on Pandora or Spotify. That being said, as long as the music experience on Twitter doesn't detract from Twitter's main use, I can certainly see the benefit of well-executed embeds from these various music platforms.
- whatsup 13y agoare we done talking about the recent announcement from that other social network?
- mijustin 13y agoWhile I'm not that interested in music discovery, I would definitely be interested in podcast discovery. I'd be interested in seeing what podcasts the people I follow on Twitter are listening to.
- jervisfm 13y agoYeah, I had the same thought as as well. As a start, are there any podcast here that people listen to and would highly recommend ? They can be dev-related but other topics is fine too. Any must listen suggestions/recommendations ?
- DavidChouinard 13y agoI highly recommend Radiolab (http://www.radiolab.org/ http://www.radiolab.org/), it's one of the most respected podcasts out there. It's changed the way I see the world.
- pseut 13y agoKEXP has some nice music podcasts
- jfb 13y agoThe BBC's "In Our Time" [1], a weekly discussion of history, science, literature, culture -- brilliantly moderated by Sir Melvyn Bragg. Effortlessly intelligent and always entertaining. [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qykl http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qykl
- mijustin 13y agoI have a show called Product People: great products and the people who build them (software, apps, ebooks). http://productpeople.tv http://productpeople.tv Also highly recommend: Startups for the Rest of Us.
- kmfrk 13y agoAs a European who doesn't have a registered user for a lot of services, I would much prefer that we decided on some ID for a song or album, so we could refer to that one link (music://, etc.), and we would get a link for - or in this case a list - of the music as provided by services that * I actually use (have a user for/access to, etc.), * offer the music in my region A modern problem that really annoys me these days, is that people are increasingly sharing music behind registration wall or region restrictions. Just look at Hulu, Netflix, Spotify - the list goes on. In a time where we're supposed to share and break barriers, a lot of people are growing increasingly unaware of the people who don't have access to many of the services that purport provide people with this media. I have a bad feeling that this could have the exact opposite effect and result in a lot of "broken links" for people with no access. I see this a lot on Tumblr right now.
- jamesgagan 13y agothis is what the tomahawk project is attempting to do. you should check it out. http://www.tomahawk-player.org/ http://www.tomahawk-player.org/
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- iand 13y agoMusicbrainz.org has been assigning unique IDs for tracks, albums and artists for about a decade. Its community built and has insane coverage. They are used in spotify's API as one example.
- bmmayer1 13y agoNo one screengrabbed the stylesheet or sprite before Twitter took it down?
- jbackus 13y agoTwitter is already in a very difficult to monetize space. Why are they expanding into another comparably difficult to monetize space?
- joeblau 13y agoI hope all of those companies do to Twitter what Twitter has done to it's developers; Cut them off. It's funny how they want to syndicate content from other platforms but don't want anyone syndicating content from their platform.