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I liked everything in the article except for the "Canada" part. It's not like he hired exclusively in NYC, SF, Chicago, or Boston. He really means "The Third Wo
by raganwald 14y ago
I liked everything in the article except for the "Canada" part. It's not like he hired exclusively in NYC, SF, Chicago, or Boston. He really means "The Third World, where salaries are low and expenses are lower."
He doesn't elaborate, but I suspect that when he says "Europe," he isn't talking about London, Paris, or Berlin.
- CanSpice 14y agoYep, when he talks about Europe he could easily mean Hungary, where salaries are about half what they are in Germany or England. Europe is a big place, and just saying "Europe" is like saying "United States". Hell, he could have hired a developer in Regina for less than a developer in Vancouver.
- gamechangr 14y agoI agree, United States and Europe has a greater variance than Canada for employee income.
- coolsunglasses 14y agoHe probably doesn't mean London, but anecdotally most UK programmers I know make 1/4 of what most bay area people earn. Since their website mentions Sofia, I'm going to guess Bulgaria.
- raganwald 14y agoThat's really what I mean as well. I can hire remote devs in Canada for 1/2 the salary of Toronto devs. I worked for a company where I had an entire team "Down East" that cost peanuts. The tech lead there laughed at the idea of moving to Toronto and doubling or trebling his salary, he loved the lifestyle he could afford where he lived.
- coolsunglasses 14y agoIncidentally, I'm consulting out in the bay area but considering heading to Austin for the cheap land and nicer people. Probably shortly before or after I start my next project.
- MetaCosm 14y agoAustin isn't that cheap -- and if it gets fancy new 1Gbit -- I am guessing it will get more expensive quickly.
- coolsunglasses 14y agoI'm looking at houses that are $100-150k in Austin as opposed to the $1mm I'm seeing in my part of the bay area. Seems cheap enough to me, even if it doubles.