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Reply to myself: If you're an Android dev, sorry I've never rated your apps, left comments or gotten ahold of you! The Play Store REQUIRES a fully activated re

by criley 14y ago

Reply to myself: If you're an Android dev, sorry I've never rated your apps, left comments or gotten ahold of you! The Play Store REQUIRES a fully activated real-name Google+ Account to rate apps and leave feedback, so I've been wholly unable to communicate with the dozens and dozens of apps that request feedback. Sorry friends. Blame Google!

angryasian 14y ago
whats wrong with society where we don't want to tell someone constructive criticism or positive feedback like it was a face to face conversation except online ?
- jacquesm 14y ago
  What's wrong with receiving valuable information without being able to ascertain who sent it to you?
  - tomkarlo 14y ago
    Information you can't trust because the source is suspect is significantly less valuable. See: spamming on Yelp and Amazon reviews.
    - bnr 13y ago
      How much more can you trust a profile pic and a real-ish name than "someguy443"?
      - tomkarlo 13y ago
        A hell of a lot more, when it's someone you know personally. That's why they want the Google+ info - so they can show you what people you know thought of something.
        mhurron 13y ago
        Really A lot more? Lets say you wrote a cool android app, but there is a little bug in it that is triggered by a phone you don't own or weren't able to test, I have that phone. I go to contact you, which of the following reports do you trust more - From: mhurron [at] saminds.com From: Google+ Roman Fox Now be honest, even though this exact setup probably smells off. Given receiving a email from the above or from the above Google+ account, are you going to trust one or dismiss one simply on the name of the account?
  - angryasian 13y ago
    you're just detracting from the original question. You're absolutely right that feedback and information can be given without being able to ascertain who its sent from, but still why aren't people able to be civil and provide feedback with their identities known.
    - jacquesm 13y ago
      > why aren't people able to be civil and provide feedback with their identities known? I find this quite funny with you being the anonymous guy and me being out there in the open with my identity. Maybe you should answer your own question?
      - angryasian 13y ago
        I do give feedback and provide criticism on the Play and Amazon store. When a site asks for a username, I pick a username. If the site asks for a real name I'll give that as well. If HN wanted real names it should have asked.
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andybak 14y ago
The question is - has this policy reduced the number of spammy, irrelevant or ignorant comments on the Play store. It used to be several notches below the quality of Youtube comments.
- criley 13y ago
  The question is, does the policy prevent highly trained testing staff who are willing to donate their time to developers for free from helping developers (but for their own reasons wish to remain anonymous). It's a trade off, and real name policies don't only exclude negative posters. (To expand: I tested someone's js project on reddit just yesterday, offering my platform, multiple browsers, a decent writeup, images/screenshots etc. But my reddit account is fully anonymous. If my real name was required, s/he never would have gotten that free help)
jholman 13y ago
Hmn. This is a genuine problem. And you can support the real-names-for-public-reviews-to-avoid-spam policy (I'm mildly against, myself), while still believing this is a genuine problem. Do the developers give you no alternate avenues for communication? No email contact or anything?

by criley 14y ago

angryasian 14y ago

whats wrong with society where we don't want to tell someone constructive criticism or positive feedback like it was a face to face conversation except online ?

jacquesm 14y ago
What's wrong with receiving valuable information without being able to ascertain who sent it to you?
- tomkarlo 14y ago
  Information you can't trust because the source is suspect is significantly less valuable. See: spamming on Yelp and Amazon reviews.
  - bnr 13y ago
    How much more can you trust a profile pic and a real-ish name than "someguy443"?
    - tomkarlo 13y ago
      A hell of a lot more, when it's someone you know personally. That's why they want the Google+ info - so they can show you what people you know thought of something.
      - mhurron 13y ago
        Really A lot more? Lets say you wrote a cool android app, but there is a little bug in it that is triggered by a phone you don't own or weren't able to test, I have that phone. I go to contact you, which of the following reports do you trust more - From: mhurron [at] saminds.com From: Google+ Roman Fox Now be honest, even though this exact setup probably smells off. Given receiving a email from the above or from the above Google+ account, are you going to trust one or dismiss one simply on the name of the account?
- angryasian 13y ago
  you're just detracting from the original question. You're absolutely right that feedback and information can be given without being able to ascertain who its sent from, but still why aren't people able to be civil and provide feedback with their identities known.
  - jacquesm 13y ago
    > why aren't people able to be civil and provide feedback with their identities known? I find this quite funny with you being the anonymous guy and me being out there in the open with my identity. Maybe you should answer your own question?
    - angryasian 13y ago
      I do give feedback and provide criticism on the Play and Amazon store. When a site asks for a username, I pick a username. If the site asks for a real name I'll give that as well. If HN wanted real names it should have asked.
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andybak 14y ago

The question is - has this policy reduced the number of spammy, irrelevant or ignorant comments on the Play store. It used to be several notches below the quality of Youtube comments.

criley 13y ago
The question is, does the policy prevent highly trained testing staff who are willing to donate their time to developers for free from helping developers (but for their own reasons wish to remain anonymous). It's a trade off, and real name policies don't only exclude negative posters. (To expand: I tested someone's js project on reddit just yesterday, offering my platform, multiple browsers, a decent writeup, images/screenshots etc. But my reddit account is fully anonymous. If my real name was required, s/he never would have gotten that free help)

jholman 13y ago

Hmn. This is a genuine problem. And you can support the real-names-for-public-reviews-to-avoid-spam policy (I'm mildly against, myself), while still believing this is a genuine problem. Do the developers give you no alternate avenues for communication? No email contact or anything?