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When you say "half the prevailing wage" where are you getting that figure? I've hired people for Facebook, Google and many startups around SF and I can say wit

When you say "half the prevailing wage" where are you getting that figure? I've hired people for Facebook, Google and many startups around SF and I can say with 100% certainty that you aren't even close. I would say that H1-B candidates pay is pretty much exactly the same as American worker pay. Hell, I would strongly object even to "H1-B workers make 95% the wages of American workers" because I believe it is actually closer than that. Furthermore, if we as a country don't care about investing in education, we can't then throw a tantrum as a country when the countries that DO invest in education are rewarded for it by having their workers hired here.

enraged_camel 14y ago
>>I would say that H1-B candidates pay is pretty much exactly the same as American worker pay. As an H1B worker, I can attest to this. In order to get an H1B, your company has to first prove to the Department of Labor that it is paying you at least the prevailing wage in your area for your profession. If the pay is less, the application is almost always denied. On the other hand, there are many expenses associated with hiring H1B workers. Hiring lawyers to deal with documentation costs a lot of money, and the overhead on HR to generate that documentation is immense. So on the whole, H1B workers cost companies more than their American counterparts. Companies just hire them because they cannot find any qualified Americans to fill those positions.
- 13b9f227ecf0 14y ago
  This is the letter of the law but everyone knows it's a joke. There are very successful consulting firms that guide employers through the process of "documenting" that workers are not available at the "prevailing wage." They list jobs in unlikely print publications and devise ways to disqualify or discourage applicants.
  - enraged_camel 14y ago
    Every law has loopholes and can be worked around. But from what I've seen, these types of practices are about as common as "Cadillac Moms." In other words, they do exist, but their prevalence is grossly exaggerated by those who have a vested interest in keeping foreigners from "stealing" their jobs.
  - ryguytilidie 14y ago
    As the guy below said, this cautionary tale is as old as Cadillac moms on welfare. I can honestly say that every H1-B candidate I have EVER seen hired was paid at least 95% the salary of the rest of the team, if not more.

enraged_camel 14y ago

>>I would say that H1-B candidates pay is pretty much exactly the same as American worker pay. As an H1B worker, I can attest to this. In order to get an H1B, your company has to first prove to the Department of Labor that it is paying you at least the prevailing wage in your area for your profession. If the pay is less, the application is almost always denied. On the other hand, there are many expenses associated with hiring H1B workers. Hiring lawyers to deal with documentation costs a lot of money, and the overhead on HR to generate that documentation is immense. So on the whole, H1B workers cost companies more than their American counterparts. Companies just hire them because they cannot find any qualified Americans to fill those positions.

13b9f227ecf0 14y ago
This is the letter of the law but everyone knows it's a joke. There are very successful consulting firms that guide employers through the process of "documenting" that workers are not available at the "prevailing wage." They list jobs in unlikely print publications and devise ways to disqualify or discourage applicants.
- enraged_camel 14y ago
  Every law has loopholes and can be worked around. But from what I've seen, these types of practices are about as common as "Cadillac Moms." In other words, they do exist, but their prevalence is grossly exaggerated by those who have a vested interest in keeping foreigners from "stealing" their jobs.
- ryguytilidie 14y ago
  As the guy below said, this cautionary tale is as old as Cadillac moms on welfare. I can honestly say that every H1-B candidate I have EVER seen hired was paid at least 95% the salary of the rest of the team, if not more.