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Perhaps a different form of commenting is needed. Instead of showing all comments to everyone, the article author sees all, while the commenter only sees their

Perhaps a different form of commenting is needed. Instead of showing all comments to everyone, the article author sees all, while the commenter only sees their own. Potentially, the article author could 'promote' worthwhile comments, and allow full discussion threads - on a separate page. The point of this would be to allow personal discussion with the author, but spam and driveby comments would be discouraged. I'm sure this must've been tried somewhere?

markkat 14y ago
One big problem with comments is the isolation. If I leave a comment on a blog, there's little chance that I will return to see responses to it, and I even if I do, it isn't part of my online persona. There's a very asymmetrical relationship between the author to his/her blog, and the commenter to his/her comment. That's why comments don't often match the level that content does. We are currently experimenting with a solution to this on Hubski. We are allowing some blogs to mirror Hubski discussions of their content on their blog. Here's an example: http://www.theadvancedapes.com/theratchet/2013/1/28/evolution-of-suicide http://www.theadvancedapes.com/theratchet/2013/1/28/evolutio... I've long seen many bloggers append a post with "discussion on HN" or "discussed on Reddit". We decided to skip the link, and to allow the thread to be embedded. It's not so much a commenting platform as a mirror to the Hubski discussion. So far it seems to be working well, and we have a cue of blogs waiting to be added. I should mention that users can follow or ignore users, tags, and domains on Hubski, and what they see is a result of what they follow. I don't think this would work on HN or Reddit, as no one would want every post from a given blog to be submitted automatically.
- khromov 14y ago
  This is very neat. Good job!
vy8vWJlco 14y ago
This does seem to be the idea behind HN (solving the quality discussion problem), so is not a bad place for it, but I think people would frown on every blogger auto-submitting every post, creating a blank discussion that can be linked to from the original. (Ie, using HN like Disqus, without the embed-ability.) It also feels like a reinvention of Usenet to flip every URL into a named-discussion (group).

markkat 14y ago

One big problem with comments is the isolation. If I leave a comment on a blog, there's little chance that I will return to see responses to it, and I even if I do, it isn't part of my online persona. There's a very asymmetrical relationship between the author to his/her blog, and the commenter to his/her comment. That's why comments don't often match the level that content does. We are currently experimenting with a solution to this on Hubski. We are allowing some blogs to mirror Hubski discussions of their content on their blog. Here's an example: http://www.theadvancedapes.com/theratchet/2013/1/28/evolution-of-suicide http://www.theadvancedapes.com/theratchet/2013/1/28/evolutio... I've long seen many bloggers append a post with "discussion on HN" or "discussed on Reddit". We decided to skip the link, and to allow the thread to be embedded. It's not so much a commenting platform as a mirror to the Hubski discussion. So far it seems to be working well, and we have a cue of blogs waiting to be added. I should mention that users can follow or ignore users, tags, and domains on Hubski, and what they see is a result of what they follow. I don't think this would work on HN or Reddit, as no one would want every post from a given blog to be submitted automatically.

khromov 14y ago
This is very neat. Good job!

vy8vWJlco 14y ago

This does seem to be the idea behind HN (solving the quality discussion problem), so is not a bad place for it, but I think people would frown on every blogger auto-submitting every post, creating a blank discussion that can be linked to from the original. (Ie, using HN like Disqus, without the embed-ability.) It also feels like a reinvention of Usenet to flip every URL into a named-discussion (group).