Maybe as a community of developers, technology enthusiasts and designers we can talk about the horrible layout of the website that was linked and atrocious logo

Maybe as a community of developers, technology enthusiasts and designers we can talk about the horrible layout of the website that was linked and atrocious logo that looks like it was done in Microsoft Paint. I agree that subjective subjects like racism aren't a good fit for HN. While some I am sure would be able to debate this topic without bias or throwing around factually incorrect arguments, we've all seen what happens between fanboys when Apple, Microsoft or Google are involved.