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The embedded visual cue to the name of the note, plus the proportional sizing, seem really nice to me. The sharping, flatting, and lack of ascenders and descen

The embedded visual cue to the name of the note, plus the proportional sizing, seem really nice to me. The sharping, flatting, and lack of ascenders and descenders I'm not so sure about. You also lose the "wall of black notes" warning you of deadly fast notes up ahead. ;)

jdpage 14y ago
The embedded name of the note seems to be the only thing this has going for it, and only in high-quality prints. I feel like the stems help me to distinguish where notes start and end, and the sharps and flats seem a little... small. Also, properly typeset standard notation is proportional anyway.
- icarus_drowning 14y ago
  Additionally beam groups convey a huge amount of information-- there's a reason, for example, that 6/8 is typically beamed in 2 groups of 3, whereas 3/4 is grouped in 3 groups of 2. Understanding the micro- and macro-pulse relationship make sight-reading much easier, in addition to subtly informing performance.
speeder 14y ago
To me, the visual cue of the name of the note is idiotic. VERY idiotic. He choose to use the C, D, E... system that is not the norm (the norm, maybe not in US I guess, is Do, Re, Mi...) And then create graphical representation of words starting with those letters. Except this works only in english. How a portuguese speaker for example would associate the dot thing with D or Re? It looks like neither, at most it looks like a dot (that in portuguese is "ponto", thus starts with a P) Or the above and below? Below in portuguese is "abaixo", thus starting with a A, so you have to teach someone that A actually means B. To me this new notation might make sense in english (maybe), but in other languages is even more arbitrary and silly (and tedious to hand-write)
- coldtea 14y ago
  >He choose to use the C, D, E... system that is not the norm (the norm, maybe not in US I guess, is Do, Re, Mi...) A musician is usually able to use both. The A/B/C/D/E/F/G is used even in European notation, for chords and stuff. >How a portuguese speaker for example would associate the dot thing with D or Re? It looks like neither, at most it looks like a dot (that in portuguese is "ponto", thus starts with a P) He would either have to learn 7 words in English, that almost everybody in the planet under 30 already knows, or just learn the visual shapes, which are distinct and take about 10 minutes to memorize. It's not as if "Do, Re, Mi" means anything in Portuguese either.
  - jtheory 14y ago
    The average US musician knows the C/D/E, and possibly moveable Do/Re/Mi (where Do is the tonic of whatever major key you're singing in). The fixed Do system isn't even much covered in basic college-level music theory in the US (to my recollection); I doubt most performers will know much about it. About asking the Portuguese musician to learn 7 English words, and switch from fixed Do to the C/D/E system... well, the problem is not that it's hugely difficult, but that it will seem like a foolish choice to music teachers. Who would teach this new system? The benefits of the new system have to be huge and obvious if it's going to gain any ground, because the existing system is everywhere. Tell a teacher that "here's a new system! Only a miniscule fraction of extant sheet music is available for you and your students, you'll have to re-write all of your teaching materials, and you'll have to force your students to learn the American C/D/E system with English-language-only mneumonics!" It doesn't sound like a winning argument to me.
    - bgruber 14y ago
      i took undergrad music theory classes at two american universities. they both used fixed-do solfege.
  - vacri 14y ago
    or just learn the visual shapes Which is different from learning position on the staff, how?

jdpage 14y ago

The embedded name of the note seems to be the only thing this has going for it, and only in high-quality prints. I feel like the stems help me to distinguish where notes start and end, and the sharps and flats seem a little... small. Also, properly typeset standard notation is proportional anyway.

icarus_drowning 14y ago
Additionally beam groups convey a huge amount of information-- there's a reason, for example, that 6/8 is typically beamed in 2 groups of 3, whereas 3/4 is grouped in 3 groups of 2. Understanding the micro- and macro-pulse relationship make sight-reading much easier, in addition to subtly informing performance.

speeder 14y ago

To me, the visual cue of the name of the note is idiotic. VERY idiotic. He choose to use the C, D, E... system that is not the norm (the norm, maybe not in US I guess, is Do, Re, Mi...) And then create graphical representation of words starting with those letters. Except this works only in english. How a portuguese speaker for example would associate the dot thing with D or Re? It looks like neither, at most it looks like a dot (that in portuguese is "ponto", thus starts with a P) Or the above and below? Below in portuguese is "abaixo", thus starting with a A, so you have to teach someone that A actually means B. To me this new notation might make sense in english (maybe), but in other languages is even more arbitrary and silly (and tedious to hand-write)

coldtea 14y ago
>He choose to use the C, D, E... system that is not the norm (the norm, maybe not in US I guess, is Do, Re, Mi...) A musician is usually able to use both. The A/B/C/D/E/F/G is used even in European notation, for chords and stuff. >How a portuguese speaker for example would associate the dot thing with D or Re? It looks like neither, at most it looks like a dot (that in portuguese is "ponto", thus starts with a P) He would either have to learn 7 words in English, that almost everybody in the planet under 30 already knows, or just learn the visual shapes, which are distinct and take about 10 minutes to memorize. It's not as if "Do, Re, Mi" means anything in Portuguese either.
- jtheory 14y ago
  The average US musician knows the C/D/E, and possibly moveable Do/Re/Mi (where Do is the tonic of whatever major key you're singing in). The fixed Do system isn't even much covered in basic college-level music theory in the US (to my recollection); I doubt most performers will know much about it. About asking the Portuguese musician to learn 7 English words, and switch from fixed Do to the C/D/E system... well, the problem is not that it's hugely difficult, but that it will seem like a foolish choice to music teachers. Who would teach this new system? The benefits of the new system have to be huge and obvious if it's going to gain any ground, because the existing system is everywhere. Tell a teacher that "here's a new system! Only a miniscule fraction of extant sheet music is available for you and your students, you'll have to re-write all of your teaching materials, and you'll have to force your students to learn the American C/D/E system with English-language-only mneumonics!" It doesn't sound like a winning argument to me.
  - bgruber 14y ago
    i took undergrad music theory classes at two american universities. they both used fixed-do solfege.
- vacri 14y ago
  or just learn the visual shapes Which is different from learning position on the staff, how?