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There are a few ways that an article can appear lower than it should. 1) Flagging by people with karma over the threshold (currently set at 500). 2) For some

There are a few ways that an article can appear lower than it should. 1) Flagging by people with karma over the threshold (currently set at 500). 2) For some domains, only 1/3rd of the upvotes count, e.g. Reddit, XKCD, images, tweets. 3) There is a "controversial" score which can bring down a story. Not sure how it is computed but perhaps it's based on number of comments versus number of points. 4) Voting ring detector. This can bring down a post pretty hard if it's triggered. 5) I suspect the HN supermoderators can cause a post to sink to the second page instantly. Most of the time it's #1 that causes posts to go down. I've usually seen it happen to posts that are anti-Apple, anti-Google or posts related to Microsoft that are not negative towards it. It's like the moderators flag posts that they don't want others to be seeing. For example, the Surface Pro review http://i.imgur.com/uFPTSqR.png http://i.imgur.com/uFPTSqR.png http://i.imgur.com/ADMcanz.png http://i.imgur.com/ADMcanz.png

trotsky 14y ago
5 is a big part too, a moderator flag appears to instantly drop a post about 60 ranks (from first to third page). I think when you see it only get to the second page that's user flagging.
- stagas 14y ago
  That's interesting. Can we have background information for these "moderators" that are given these god like abilities? We need to know who's deciding what we should be reading or not.
  - trotsky 14y ago
    pretty sure it's anyone thats a yc alum
  - chc 14y ago
    Nobody's deciding what you should be reading. They're just deciding what gets top billing on Hacker News. I'm pretty sure none of the moderators believe the top stories on Hacker News are the only things worth reading. Hacker News is meant to be tightly focused on certain areas, so other things (e.g. politics) get buried whether you should read them or not.
- recoiledsnake 14y ago
  The HN Rankings graph does show a slower decline, so my best guess is that it was flagging. http://hnrankings.info/5523672/ http://hnrankings.info/5523672/
  - stagas 14y ago
    Awesome tool! I had the impression it was less than that, but our mind can play these tricks. It seems a bit steep though, I'll compare it with other stories and see if I can find a correlation.
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trotsky 14y ago

5 is a big part too, a moderator flag appears to instantly drop a post about 60 ranks (from first to third page). I think when you see it only get to the second page that's user flagging.

stagas 14y ago
That's interesting. Can we have background information for these "moderators" that are given these god like abilities? We need to know who's deciding what we should be reading or not.
- trotsky 14y ago
  pretty sure it's anyone thats a yc alum
- chc 14y ago
  Nobody's deciding what you should be reading. They're just deciding what gets top billing on Hacker News. I'm pretty sure none of the moderators believe the top stories on Hacker News are the only things worth reading. Hacker News is meant to be tightly focused on certain areas, so other things (e.g. politics) get buried whether you should read them or not.
recoiledsnake 14y ago
The HN Rankings graph does show a slower decline, so my best guess is that it was flagging. http://hnrankings.info/5523672/ http://hnrankings.info/5523672/
- stagas 14y ago
  Awesome tool! I had the impression it was less than that, but our mind can play these tricks. It seems a bit steep though, I'll compare it with other stories and see if I can find a correlation.

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