> is that one should first try to con the opposing party unless they're in on the game I don't say the should, but they always try to do if they think they can

> is that one should first try to con the opposing party unless they're in on the game I don't say the should, but they always try to do if they think they can get away with it! Now, "con" is a relative term, and I don't say you should "walk away right there", no f way! But if you show them that you too have "gaming" skills to match their league, some will just drop the game and go to a "fair compromise" mode, which is the mode I like doing business in. What I call a "pro gamer" is someone that will never drop out of the gaming mode (or at least drop to "lower gaming mode" where it's obvious we're looking for a compromise that works well enough for both side although nobody really "wins") either because they are better than most others at "gaming" and they know it, or because they just enjoy gaming for gaming's sake...