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>I am seriously asking - Where are all the feminists now? Especially the ones who know this app.. Don't worry, they are certainly ready with the argument that

by jimzvz 14y ago

>I am seriously asking - Where are all the feminists now? Especially the ones who know this app.. Don't worry, they are certainly ready with the argument that it is the "patriarchy" that makes this app acceptable but not the reverse.

duaneb 14y ago
Most (all?) women I know who identify as feminist activists would not support this app, and I highly doubt anyone who would is really a feminist. This is equally harmful to women.
cheez 14y ago
I thought this was amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYyGTmcP80 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYyGTmcP80 "A woman is rude and abusive? PATRIRACHY!"
Steuard 14y ago
As I said to the previous poster, if you have a shred of evidence that "the feminists" consider this app to be acceptable (not just "less bad"), you should share it now. If you don't, then you might want to pause for a few minutes and seriously ask yourself why you said what you did. Because from my experience, opposing a service like this is a core value of feminism. (It may not be seen as a top priority, but that's a radically different statement.)
- jimzvz 14y ago
  I think you and duaneb have misunderstood my comment. I do not mean that they will say that it is acceptable to them because of the patriarchy, they will say that it is acceptable to society because of the patriarchy. In other words, they will blame the existence and acceptance of this app on the patriarchy and not the individuals who created it and accept it.
  - Steuard 14y ago
    Ah, thanks for the clarification. (I'm not sure that I understand your point, but at least it's not the basic misunderstanding of feminism that I thought it was.) (This is a reflection of the social influences that feminism labels "the patriarchy", right? Even though it's individual people making choices that implement those social trends. I've never considered the two to be mutually exclusive.)
  - mnicole 14y ago
    Men created and promoted this app, and curious people it is targeted to are going to try it. What is your point?

by jimzvz 14y ago

duaneb 14y ago

Most (all?) women I know who identify as feminist activists would not support this app, and I highly doubt anyone who would is really a feminist. This is equally harmful to women.

cheez 14y ago

I thought this was amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYyGTmcP80 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYyGTmcP80 "A woman is rude and abusive? PATRIRACHY!"

Steuard 14y ago

As I said to the previous poster, if you have a shred of evidence that "the feminists" consider this app to be acceptable (not just "less bad"), you should share it now. If you don't, then you might want to pause for a few minutes and seriously ask yourself why you said what you did. Because from my experience, opposing a service like this is a core value of feminism. (It may not be seen as a top priority, but that's a radically different statement.)

jimzvz 14y ago
I think you and duaneb have misunderstood my comment. I do not mean that they will say that it is acceptable to them because of the patriarchy, they will say that it is acceptable to society because of the patriarchy. In other words, they will blame the existence and acceptance of this app on the patriarchy and not the individuals who created it and accept it.
- Steuard 14y ago
  Ah, thanks for the clarification. (I'm not sure that I understand your point, but at least it's not the basic misunderstanding of feminism that I thought it was.) (This is a reflection of the social influences that feminism labels "the patriarchy", right? Even though it's individual people making choices that implement those social trends. I've never considered the two to be mutually exclusive.)
- mnicole 14y ago
  Men created and promoted this app, and curious people it is targeted to are going to try it. What is your point?