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So you're a guy who likes dressing up like a girl. Ok, acceptable. Now stop lying and calling yourself a girl. You're not. Edit: Fuck you downvoters. Yes, I kn
by FUlibs 14y ago
So you're a guy who likes dressing up like a girl. Ok, acceptable. Now stop lying and calling yourself a girl. You're not.
Edit: Fuck you downvoters. Yes, I know it's socially unacceptable to question someone's "identity". I don't care. That identity is a lie. He's a woman because he likes women's clothing just like I'm black because I love me some fried chicken.
- Fargren 14y agoGender and sex are two different things. If she identifies with the female gender, well then she has every right to be called a girl.
- FUlibs 14y agoGender is made-up. There is only sex.
- darshan 14y agoHuh, after your other hateful comments, I'm surprised that it's almost like you get it, here. If you differentiate between biological sex and gender as social construct (what you call "made-up"), what is your objection to someone having a "made-up" gender identity that is different from the more common gender identity of others born with their same sex?
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoThis is the internet, I can call myself a girl if I want to. If other people don't want to, that's their problem. Also, you clearly don't know anything about trans people if you think it's as simple as "dressing up like a girl".
- FUlibs 14y agoYou can call yourself whatever you like. And I can call you a dirty stinking liar when what you call yourself is a dirty stinking lie.
- camus 14y agoThe only question is what are you legally? if you are legally a man then you are a man no matter what you think you are. If you are a woman , then likewise.
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoI'd rather not discuss my legal gender. However, that doesn't state your gender definitively. Intersexed folks exist, people who were mistakenly mis-assigned gender by their genitals exist, and you can change your legal gender, at least where I live.
- jlgreco 14y ago> if you are legally a man then you are a man no matter what you think you are. Do you mean "legally a man", or "medically a man"? It is trivial to conceive of legal systems that fly in the face of what is plainly reality. The law can, and at various times and places has been, written by bigots and/or the uninformed. Who cares how it classifies things? As for "medically a man", while it is possible to be "medically a man" or "medically a woman", for any reasonable definition of "medically", there are more than those two options.
- camus 14y agoWhat does "medically a man" means ? I mean one undergoes a re-assignement because one wants to change its legal status right ? now in my home country however (France) , I dont think there is a third option , but you can legally change your sex. And that's fine.
- jlgreco 14y agoI'm not a doctor, nor do I really do any sort of gender studies research as a hobby, so I do not know what "medically" would mean in this context. What I do know is that "legally" is basically worthless.
- yaddayadda 14y agoThere are multiple legal documents that can be used to establish sex or gender. What happens when a person's driver's license is in one sex and their passport in a different sex? Better yet, what happens when the person has an "X" as their passport gender?
- jlgreco 14y agoWhy did you create a new account to post this shit? At least have the common decency to own up to your own bigotry.
- FUlibs 14y agoBigotry? Because I don't think people should lie to each other? LOL. It's asshats who buy the lie so hard, like you, that I have to hide my identity from!
- yaddayadda 14y agoBiological sex is many things, chromosomes, genitalia, hormones, and the effects of these. If any of these don't match, is the person a guy or a girl? Even among these, there is ambiguity. I have a friend who - no joking - was born with both a vagina and penis. According to you, is my friend a guy or a girl? There were Olympic athletes who had vaginas and no penis but XY chromosomes, are they guys or girls? There is at least one study that showed transgender women (regardless of transition status) had traditionally female brains, so why should a penis at birth be more important then the person's brain?
- libsaredumb 14y agoYeah freaks exist. But most "transgender" people are perfectly physically normal people who decide they want to "identify as" the opposite sex. The existence of mules does not imply that horses can just declare they want to be called donkeys now.
- jlgreco 14y agoI understand how people could be not aware of this (most children's books don't cover the subject after all) and I can understand why it might make some people uncomfortable (although it does not make me uncomfortable, unfamilar things of can make people uncomfortable. I get that.) What I, for the life of me, cannot understand is why someone, after being informed of it, would reject the notion entirely. Where does that come from? How does someone ascribe so much importance to the concept of a gender/sex binary? Just imagine if people reacted the same to the concept of political ideologies neither republican nor democrat... I cannot fathom it, nor any reason for it.
- yaddayadda 14y agoI think some of it is background, some of it is knowledge, some of it is time to acclimate to new knowledge, and some is Cognitive Inflexibility (https://eslkevin.wordpress.com/2012/06/23/why-conservative-four-researchers-who-culled-through-50-years-of-research-literature-about-the-psychology-of-conservatism-report-that-at-the-core-of-political-conservatism-is-the-resistance-to-change/ https://eslkevin.wordpress.com/2012/06/23/why-conservative-f... and http://mprcenter.org/blog/2008/11/06/media-framing-conservative-or-cognitive-inflexibility/ http://mprcenter.org/blog/2008/11/06/media-framing-conservat... ).
- noonespecial 14y agoSometimes I forget how fierce trolling can be. HN actually has very little of it so this really stands out. I'd have blown right past it on reddit but here I accidentally read it like a real comment. Kind of like absent-mindedly eating that last shriveled and nasty grape in the bunch while preoccupied.
- libsaredumb 14y agoEven in this fucked up day and age, telling the truth does not make you a troll.
- s_baby 14y agoA) It's pretty clear the brains of transgendered are physiologically different. B) People who have an emotional response to sexuality and gender are usually the ones who have repressed issues regarding their sexuality and gender identity. It's a touchy situation. On one hand I want to call you out for being a bigot on the other I feel sympathetic and wish you the best.
- libsaredumb 14y agoSo because they're mentally ill, it's the rest of the world's job to affirm their delusions?
- fnlibs 14y agoSo because they're mentally ill, the whole rest of the world has to affirm their delusions?