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How many companies are reading this and wondering if their next datacenter project should involve servers located outside US jurisdiction?

SystemOut 18y ago
Do you seriously think that other countries have more respect for rule of law or knowledge of data centers than the FBI? It's not that I have any respect for the FBI when it comes to how they have handled this or other investigations but I have a hard time believing that this couldn't easily happen in any other country you might choose to house your servers in. What this case tells me if I'm running a business or in charge of the operations group is to make the case for investing in a good disaster recovery strategy. Basically, this is the equivalent of your data center catching on fire, blowing up, falling into a sinkhole, etc. You should always budget for and have plans to be able to be back up and running with 24 hours if your business depends on what's in the co-location facility. If you're big enough then probably already have multiple sites and can sustain the hit from one going down or being removed anyways.
- wheels 18y ago
  A coordinated raid of multiple sites inside of the US wouldn't be that hard. A coordinated raid spanning multiple countries would be hard enough that you'd have to suspected of Really, Really, Bad Things for it to come off.
  - SystemOut 18y ago
    That wasn't my point. If you're suspected of enough that they are specifically targeting everywhere you're at and/or seizing your off-site DR assets you've most likely done something bad enough to warrant that closer look.
    - patrickg-zill 18y ago
      Wow ... that is an attitude you should re-examine.
wmf 18y ago
Don't be so sure that will help: http://cryptome.org/fbi-imc/fbi-imc-doc.htm http://cryptome.org/fbi-imc/fbi-imc-doc.htm
tlb 18y ago
You need location redundancy anyway. Fires, floods, earthquakes, etc. A few years ago burglars broke in and took all my machines. So there are many reasons to have an off-site separate-provider backup of everything.
- mpk 18y ago
  Well that's just great. I'll have to add incompetent law-enforcement to the BCP/DRP list of stuff you have to take into account along with network outages, terrorism, fire, flood and all the rest.
patio11 18y ago
Given the relative incidence of FBI raids to datacenters you might as well pick your server location based on perceived threat of meteorite strikes.
- tesseract 18y ago
  A location under a mountain in Kinakuta would be an ideal safeguard against both.

SystemOut 18y ago

Do you seriously think that other countries have more respect for rule of law or knowledge of data centers than the FBI? It's not that I have any respect for the FBI when it comes to how they have handled this or other investigations but I have a hard time believing that this couldn't easily happen in any other country you might choose to house your servers in. What this case tells me if I'm running a business or in charge of the operations group is to make the case for investing in a good disaster recovery strategy. Basically, this is the equivalent of your data center catching on fire, blowing up, falling into a sinkhole, etc. You should always budget for and have plans to be able to be back up and running with 24 hours if your business depends on what's in the co-location facility. If you're big enough then probably already have multiple sites and can sustain the hit from one going down or being removed anyways.

wheels 18y ago
A coordinated raid of multiple sites inside of the US wouldn't be that hard. A coordinated raid spanning multiple countries would be hard enough that you'd have to suspected of Really, Really, Bad Things for it to come off.
- SystemOut 18y ago
  That wasn't my point. If you're suspected of enough that they are specifically targeting everywhere you're at and/or seizing your off-site DR assets you've most likely done something bad enough to warrant that closer look.
  - patrickg-zill 18y ago
    Wow ... that is an attitude you should re-examine.

wmf 18y ago

Don't be so sure that will help: http://cryptome.org/fbi-imc/fbi-imc-doc.htm http://cryptome.org/fbi-imc/fbi-imc-doc.htm

tlb 18y ago

You need location redundancy anyway. Fires, floods, earthquakes, etc. A few years ago burglars broke in and took all my machines. So there are many reasons to have an off-site separate-provider backup of everything.

mpk 18y ago
Well that's just great. I'll have to add incompetent law-enforcement to the BCP/DRP list of stuff you have to take into account along with network outages, terrorism, fire, flood and all the rest.

patio11 18y ago

Given the relative incidence of FBI raids to datacenters you might as well pick your server location based on perceived threat of meteorite strikes.

tesseract 18y ago
A location under a mountain in Kinakuta would be an ideal safeguard against both.