I think only devs think negatively about the sites, as users are routinely impressed by bells and whistles (as pointless as they are). This is not flashes faul

I think only devs think negatively about the sites, as users are routinely impressed by bells and whistles (as pointless as they are). This is not flashes fault -- think of all the useless motion we are seeing in html5 pages. Its just a matter of non-techs seeing a fancy moving thing and wanting to have it. Oftentimes usability can be terrible, but it is up to us as service/product providers to inform the client, and not force our bias on their business processes.