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You can specify the field types when opening the file.

by qw 14y ago

mirkules 14y ago
Indeed. I don't know what version of Excel the parent is using, but Excel for Mac 2010 handles csv files just fine, even ones that have weird delimiters. I'd love to see an example of a non-readable csv file. Edit: I haven't tried different Unicodes yet, so granted that may not work.
pielud 14y ago
Any numbers with leading zeroes, i.e. 0000123, excel will interpret as the integer 123 even if you change the column format to "text". It's infuriating. The only way I found to get around this was to open a new workbook, change the column type to "text" and then paste the data in. I believe this was excel 2010 on windows.
- azadder 14y ago
  You can add an apostrophe before the leading zeros, and the cell will keep the zeros and still be a number type.
acdha 14y ago
… and precisely how many users do you think know to do this? They might if it's happened before, been correctly diagnosed and explained before and it's obvious as soon as you open the file. It's more common, however, that the Excel bug only causes data loss or invalid results in a percentage of records and, when people notice it, it's corrected by hand. If you need to do this a lot, generate xlsx - it's not that hard and there are decent libraries for most languages. Relying on users correctly setting column types every time is like making your daily commute depend on having airbags.
onemorepassword 14y ago
Except that when users click on or download a csv-file, it Excel opens it automatically, bypassing any options and not even bothering to check if the contents of the csv file matches its defaults. This is 90% of use cases with regular users. For the other 10%, the interface for specifying the field types sucks, doesn't cover certain options and you can't set your preferences. Imagine being a user and having to do that every day in order to import your daily whatever report, and having to start all over if you make one little mistake. And that's just for the options Excel supports. Don't even get me started on all the other quirks. Ever tried to read a csv file who's first line starts with "ID"?

You can specify the field types when opening the file.

by qw 14y ago

You can specify the field types when opening the file.

Indeed. I don't know what version of Excel the parent is using, but Excel for Mac 2010 handles csv files just fine, even ones that have weird delimiters. I'd love to see an example of a non-readable csv file. Edit: I haven't tried different Unicodes yet, so granted that may not work.

pielud 14y ago

Any numbers with leading zeroes, i.e. 0000123, excel will interpret as the integer 123 even if you change the column format to "text". It's infuriating. The only way I found to get around this was to open a new workbook, change the column type to "text" and then paste the data in. I believe this was excel 2010 on windows.

azadder 14y ago
You can add an apostrophe before the leading zeros, and the cell will keep the zeros and still be a number type.

acdha 14y ago

… and precisely how many users do you think know to do this? They might if it's happened before, been correctly diagnosed and explained before and it's obvious as soon as you open the file. It's more common, however, that the Excel bug only causes data loss or invalid results in a percentage of records and, when people notice it, it's corrected by hand. If you need to do this a lot, generate xlsx - it's not that hard and there are decent libraries for most languages. Relying on users correctly setting column types every time is like making your daily commute depend on having airbags.

onemorepassword 14y ago

Except that when users click on or download a csv-file, it Excel opens it automatically, bypassing any options and not even bothering to check if the contents of the csv file matches its defaults. This is 90% of use cases with regular users. For the other 10%, the interface for specifying the field types sucks, doesn't cover certain options and you can't set your preferences. Imagine being a user and having to do that every day in order to import your daily whatever report, and having to start all over if you make one little mistake. And that's just for the options Excel supports. Don't even get me started on all the other quirks. Ever tried to read a csv file who's first line starts with "ID"?