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"On the other hand, how do you distinguish in a principled way the spectrum between an individual receiving the content with his antenna and what Time Warner Ca

by larrys 14y ago

"On the other hand, how do you distinguish in a principled way the spectrum between an individual receiving the content with his antenna and what Time Warner Cable might do, with services like Aereo in the middle?" Isn't this a bit like asking why I can read something from a particular website online for free but someone can't take that free content and have me read it in it's entirety on another website? (Or am I misunderstanding the point you are making?) One point though regardless that matters is that is that if I have a service that I charge money for and I use your product to provide value to my customers (even for free) shouldn't you be compensated for that even if those customers could have gotten the same content another way?

rayiner 14y ago
> Isn't this a bit like asking why I can read something from a particular website online for free but someone can't take that free content and have me read it in it's entirety on another website? (Or am I misunderstanding the point you are making?) It's a lot like that, except with the angle of: what does that mean for a company like Aereo, which ostensibly just offers you a "really big antenna" to watch the broadcasters' content? The problem seems to be that you (some people) want to give some leeway to companies like Aereo to do space shifting of broadcast content, without having to say "okay cable providers, you don't have to pay for anything you can capture on the air."
AnthonyMouse 14y ago
>Isn't this a bit like asking why I can read something from a particular website online for free but someone can't take that free content and have me read it in it's entirety on another website? (Or am I misunderstanding the point you are making?) It is kind of the same thing -- but it has the same issue. Suppose I set up a public proxy server, or a Tor exit node, or a service like AWS that anyone can route traffic through. Now all the content on "your" website is available through "my" server. Do you suppose that to be unreasonable? That's pretty much what Aereo is doing with broadcasts, isn't it?
caf 14y ago
One point though regardless that matters is that is that if I have a service that I charge money for and I use your product to provide value to my customers (even for free) shouldn't you be compensated for that even if those customers could have gotten the same content another way? Isn't this what every ISP is doing with the content of every website in the world? What about TV antenna installers - their product is virtually useless without all that broadcast content that they don't compensate the producers for?

by larrys 14y ago

rayiner 14y ago

> Isn't this a bit like asking why I can read something from a particular website online for free but someone can't take that free content and have me read it in it's entirety on another website? (Or am I misunderstanding the point you are making?) It's a lot like that, except with the angle of: what does that mean for a company like Aereo, which ostensibly just offers you a "really big antenna" to watch the broadcasters' content? The problem seems to be that you (some people) want to give some leeway to companies like Aereo to do space shifting of broadcast content, without having to say "okay cable providers, you don't have to pay for anything you can capture on the air."

AnthonyMouse 14y ago

>Isn't this a bit like asking why I can read something from a particular website online for free but someone can't take that free content and have me read it in it's entirety on another website? (Or am I misunderstanding the point you are making?) It is kind of the same thing -- but it has the same issue. Suppose I set up a public proxy server, or a Tor exit node, or a service like AWS that anyone can route traffic through. Now all the content on "your" website is available through "my" server. Do you suppose that to be unreasonable? That's pretty much what Aereo is doing with broadcasts, isn't it?

caf 14y ago

One point though regardless that matters is that is that if I have a service that I charge money for and I use your product to provide value to my customers (even for free) shouldn't you be compensated for that even if those customers could have gotten the same content another way? Isn't this what every ISP is doing with the content of every website in the world? What about TV antenna installers - their product is virtually useless without all that broadcast content that they don't compensate the producers for?