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I would like that everyone call it "Microsoft SQL Server" over "SQL Server". Or else Microsoft has successfully squatted a common, generic term as a name of th

I would like that everyone call it "Microsoft SQL Server" over "SQL Server". Or else Microsoft has successfully squatted a common, generic term as a name of their product. Not a good thing if you ask me.

chrisvineup 14y ago
Too late, Microsoft already own the term SQL Server. Not that it matters because everyone knows SQL server as being the MS product anyway.
rammark 14y ago
I agree with you that this is not a good thing, but I don't think changes in language like this ever reverse (similar to generic trademarks).
FireBeyond 14y ago
Databases have always been known as relational, RDMS, etc. In the "old days" I never heard of people referring to Oracle as a "SQL Server", nor DB2, etc. Even now, people talk of Postgres as a "RDBMS", not, "Postgres, a SQL server". So I'd say that I don't particularly agree with your postulation.
- Bill_Dimm 14y ago
  "RDBMS" does not necessarily imply that it speaks SQL, correct? My company produces document clustering software that can interact with virtually any database (via ODBC) that speaks SQL to examine any stored documents and cluster them. It is extremely annoying to try to convey to a prospective customer that it works with "virtually any SQL server" without them thinking that means just Microsoft SQL Server. I agree with guard-of-terra -- we should not be ceding common/descriptive terms to Microsoft.
  - pjmlp 14y ago
    The name comes from Sybase, not Microsoft. Microsoft SQL Server is an offspring from Sybase SQL Server.
- kragen 14y ago
  Postgres and MySQL are SQL servers; SQLite is not, but it's still a SQL RDBMS. Similar with Gadfly. University Ingres was an RDBMS server, but it didn't speak SQL, so it wasn't a SQL server either. Generally speaking, software that's written to work with one SQL server is pretty easy to retarget to another, but retargeting it to work with SQLite or University Ingres would be pretty rough.
malkia 14y ago
I also don't do much Visual stuff (I do mostly console based apps on Windows) with Visual Studio, but hey - they got the name :)
jeremyjh 14y ago
You will never find someone use the term "SQL Server" to refer to anything else. Now, sometimes people just call it "SQL" and that is legitimately confusing.
iso8859-1 14y ago
Your preferred term is too long. "mssql" will do.
gfodor 14y ago
ship: sailed.

chrisvineup 14y ago

Too late, Microsoft already own the term SQL Server. Not that it matters because everyone knows SQL server as being the MS product anyway.

rammark 14y ago

I agree with you that this is not a good thing, but I don't think changes in language like this ever reverse (similar to generic trademarks).

FireBeyond 14y ago

Databases have always been known as relational, RDMS, etc. In the "old days" I never heard of people referring to Oracle as a "SQL Server", nor DB2, etc. Even now, people talk of Postgres as a "RDBMS", not, "Postgres, a SQL server". So I'd say that I don't particularly agree with your postulation.

Bill_Dimm 14y ago
"RDBMS" does not necessarily imply that it speaks SQL, correct? My company produces document clustering software that can interact with virtually any database (via ODBC) that speaks SQL to examine any stored documents and cluster them. It is extremely annoying to try to convey to a prospective customer that it works with "virtually any SQL server" without them thinking that means just Microsoft SQL Server. I agree with guard-of-terra -- we should not be ceding common/descriptive terms to Microsoft.
- pjmlp 14y ago
  The name comes from Sybase, not Microsoft. Microsoft SQL Server is an offspring from Sybase SQL Server.
kragen 14y ago
Postgres and MySQL are SQL servers; SQLite is not, but it's still a SQL RDBMS. Similar with Gadfly. University Ingres was an RDBMS server, but it didn't speak SQL, so it wasn't a SQL server either. Generally speaking, software that's written to work with one SQL server is pretty easy to retarget to another, but retargeting it to work with SQLite or University Ingres would be pretty rough.

malkia 14y ago

I also don't do much Visual stuff (I do mostly console based apps on Windows) with Visual Studio, but hey - they got the name :)

jeremyjh 14y ago

You will never find someone use the term "SQL Server" to refer to anything else. Now, sometimes people just call it "SQL" and that is legitimately confusing.

iso8859-1 14y ago

Your preferred term is too long. "mssql" will do.

gfodor 14y ago

ship: sailed.