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> When talking about farm help, they may hold a grudge against the animals they are working with. A friend would work his uncle's farm every saturday to help cl
by nilved 14y ago
> When talking about farm help, they may hold a grudge against the animals they are working with. A friend would work his uncle's farm every saturday to help clean up after the pigs. His job was basically shoveling pig poop for 8 hours (or other equally not-fun jobs). It would take a day before he smelled normal again. Doing this kind of work can make some people resentful of the animals they work with.
Working in a call center, I resented every customer I dealt with. At no point did I electrocute, scald, maim or torture them. Not just because of the distance, but because I'm not a fucking psychopath. People who abuse living creatures do not need any defense; on the contrary, they're immoral, depraved and indefensible.
- snowwrestler 14y agoAnimals do not have the rights we accord to people who phone call centers. But should they? That's where discussion of this issue most frequently breaks down. It's not really about farming or filming. The issue comes down to whether people think it is moral to eat meat. (or meat raised on a factory farm, or meat they did not kill themselves, or some other gradation on the vegan-carnivore scale)
- earbitscom 14y agoIt is not about whether it's moral to eat meat. We have laws that protect these animals from unnecessary cruelty. Their murder is permitted for food production. Kicking them, taunting them, housing them in unbearable conditions - these are all illegal under the law. There is no reason why filming such abuse in undercover investigations should be made illegal, let alone an act of terror. This simply makes it easier for these people to commit crimes.