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As a US citizen, this scares the crap out of me. If the government is actively and publicly preventing people from exposing rampant crime, it speaks volumes. A

As a US citizen, this scares the crap out of me. If the government is actively and publicly preventing people from exposing rampant crime, it speaks volumes. At least if they were trying to be covert or slick about it, it implies they know what they are doing is wrong.

ianstallings 14y ago
They just rammed a bill through congress to make Monsato above the law. They have drones scouring the globe for vans filled with people they can drop bombs on if they think they may associate with "bad" people. If you talk about it you're a conspiracy theorist. Which means you go onto a list. Gotta watch what you're doing now. They try to disarm the public in the name of safety while arming themselves to the teeth and solving every problem they have with the threat of violence. Think this is crazy talk? Well that's my point. It's become crazy to even mention some things. Frankly, the stuff is getting outright creepy and they better be careful because they are playing with fire.
- thisone 14y ago
  I find this bit to be on the 'oh-please' side of crazy: >They try to disarm the public in the name of safety while arming themselves to the teeth and solving every problem they have with the threat of violence. because I have a friend who used this basic argument to say gun control increases the likelihood of a nuclear strike on DC by North Korea.
  - hmottestad 14y ago
    People with big guns always say they are trying to make peace. Doesn't mean that trying to make peace is a bad thing. And by "disarm" I presume in the terms of rights/finances/influence....rather than literally in terms of guns.
  - ianstallings 14y ago
    Well is it not the truth? The US has the world's most heavily armed police forces. Their military makes others look quaint. They have military actions going on today right now all over the world. They always need more $ to continue the violence. Yet they claim that violence is wrong. It's really no wonder we're like a bunch of crazy people. The simple fact is uncle sam solves every problem with violence so I'm not surprised when it's citizens act the same way.
    - thisone 14y ago
      In the overall argument, I find a distinction between citizen and government. I disagree with the Supreme Court's interpretation of the second amendment, so that gives a basis of where I come from when equating ownership of firearms for personal protection to a standing military. However, I can't stop my eye's from rolling at someone telling me that if everyone had guns, there would be no nuclear threat from any person/group/country. I honestly don't understand how one can connect to the other.
- VLM 14y ago
  One minor correction to an otherwise pretty good post: Its more like if you talk about how a list exists, that makes you a conspiracy theorist, which means you go onto a list.

ianstallings 14y ago

They just rammed a bill through congress to make Monsato above the law. They have drones scouring the globe for vans filled with people they can drop bombs on if they think they may associate with "bad" people. If you talk about it you're a conspiracy theorist. Which means you go onto a list. Gotta watch what you're doing now. They try to disarm the public in the name of safety while arming themselves to the teeth and solving every problem they have with the threat of violence. Think this is crazy talk? Well that's my point. It's become crazy to even mention some things. Frankly, the stuff is getting outright creepy and they better be careful because they are playing with fire.

thisone 14y ago
I find this bit to be on the 'oh-please' side of crazy: >They try to disarm the public in the name of safety while arming themselves to the teeth and solving every problem they have with the threat of violence. because I have a friend who used this basic argument to say gun control increases the likelihood of a nuclear strike on DC by North Korea.
- hmottestad 14y ago
  People with big guns always say they are trying to make peace. Doesn't mean that trying to make peace is a bad thing. And by "disarm" I presume in the terms of rights/finances/influence....rather than literally in terms of guns.
- ianstallings 14y ago
  Well is it not the truth? The US has the world's most heavily armed police forces. Their military makes others look quaint. They have military actions going on today right now all over the world. They always need more $ to continue the violence. Yet they claim that violence is wrong. It's really no wonder we're like a bunch of crazy people. The simple fact is uncle sam solves every problem with violence so I'm not surprised when it's citizens act the same way.
  - thisone 14y ago
    In the overall argument, I find a distinction between citizen and government. I disagree with the Supreme Court's interpretation of the second amendment, so that gives a basis of where I come from when equating ownership of firearms for personal protection to a standing military. However, I can't stop my eye's from rolling at someone telling me that if everyone had guns, there would be no nuclear threat from any person/group/country. I honestly don't understand how one can connect to the other.
VLM 14y ago
One minor correction to an otherwise pretty good post: Its more like if you talk about how a list exists, that makes you a conspiracy theorist, which means you go onto a list.