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This is the one thing, I wish more people would avoid doing. The fact of the matter is that most people use the browser their computer came with. Getting people

by eksith 14y ago

This is the one thing, I wish more people would avoid doing. The fact of the matter is that most people use the browser their computer came with. Getting people to change that is tantamount to saying, we don't need to you as a customer. FWIW, it does work OK so far on IE10 for me.

kemayo 14y ago
IE10 is pretty solid. I only wish that I could get away with supporting just it, instead of IE8+.
- eksith 14y ago
  Not gonna be that easy at least for another couple of years. ;) I will say, most of my stats for clients show some IE10, more IE9 and fewer IE8 these days; about 5%/65%/20% split for IE versions with 10% for older ( IE/other browsers split at about 60%/40% ), and these aren't techy sites either. So there's some good news there. IE9 Isn't too bad actually, though sadly, a lot of eye-candy projects featured on HN break outright on it or are prevented from loading upon browser detection.
  - kemayo 14y ago
    Biggest site I've got access to analytics on gets me 10/9/8 at 18%/56%/19%. So, someday!
dspillett 14y ago
> Getting people to change that is tantamount to saying, we don't need to you as a customer. In many cases supporting legacy IE is more hassle than it is worth, so people genuinely don't need IE8 users as customers. Unfortunately IE8 came with Widnows 7 so is supported as long as that is which IIRC is until 2020 (for the extended support period). Given how long it took out corporate clients to upgrade from IE6 to IE8 (some only just have) if I don't change jobs I'm going to be supporting IE8 in our applications for the next seven years at least, but many people do have the luxury of being able to say "sorry, I don't have time to be supporting that" especially when they are giving their time/effort for no financial (or similar) gain (I'm at least paid to deal with legacy IE!).
coldtea 14y ago
>The fact of the matter is that most people use the browser their computer came with. No, they don't. Else it would be 90% IE. Most people use Chrome and Firefox. And there are places in Europe where IE is almost non existent. And even on the Mac, Chrome and Firefox users are as many or equal to Safari users. So "most users stick to the browser the computer came with"? Might have been true back in Windows XP days. Not for a long while.

by eksith 14y ago

kemayo 14y ago

IE10 is pretty solid. I only wish that I could get away with supporting just it, instead of IE8+.

eksith 14y ago
Not gonna be that easy at least for another couple of years. ;) I will say, most of my stats for clients show some IE10, more IE9 and fewer IE8 these days; about 5%/65%/20% split for IE versions with 10% for older ( IE/other browsers split at about 60%/40% ), and these aren't techy sites either. So there's some good news there. IE9 Isn't too bad actually, though sadly, a lot of eye-candy projects featured on HN break outright on it or are prevented from loading upon browser detection.
- kemayo 14y ago
  Biggest site I've got access to analytics on gets me 10/9/8 at 18%/56%/19%. So, someday!

dspillett 14y ago

> Getting people to change that is tantamount to saying, we don't need to you as a customer. In many cases supporting legacy IE is more hassle than it is worth, so people genuinely don't need IE8 users as customers. Unfortunately IE8 came with Widnows 7 so is supported as long as that is which IIRC is until 2020 (for the extended support period). Given how long it took out corporate clients to upgrade from IE6 to IE8 (some only just have) if I don't change jobs I'm going to be supporting IE8 in our applications for the next seven years at least, but many people do have the luxury of being able to say "sorry, I don't have time to be supporting that" especially when they are giving their time/effort for no financial (or similar) gain (I'm at least paid to deal with legacy IE!).

coldtea 14y ago

>The fact of the matter is that most people use the browser their computer came with. No, they don't. Else it would be 90% IE. Most people use Chrome and Firefox. And there are places in Europe where IE is almost non existent. And even on the Mac, Chrome and Firefox users are as many or equal to Safari users. So "most users stick to the browser the computer came with"? Might have been true back in Windows XP days. Not for a long while.