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> There's much more to Bossavit's research than my quotes here, so if you disagree, please read and rebut his work directly, not just these quotes. Please prov

by igouy 14y ago

> There's much more to Bossavit's research than my quotes here, so if you disagree, please read and rebut his work directly, not just these quotes. Please provide a copy of Bossavit's research.

jdlshore 14y ago
I was using "research" in the colloquial sense, not in the "research paper" sense. Bossavit researched the 10x claims (thoroughly and meticulously) and wrote up his findings in the book I mentioned. You can find it here: http://leanpub.com/leprechauns http://leanpub.com/leprechauns It's an impressive work of scholarship; many of the citations he followed were out of print, expensive, or referring to unnamed parts of 300-page books. Luckily for us, Bossavit's write-up is engaging and accessible. It isn't free, but it's trivially inexpensive (US$5-10) if you care about this subject. Far cheaper than the source material.
- igouy 14y ago
  > It isn't free And isn't available in any of the linked libraries available to me. And I already had a long email discussion with Laurent back in 2011, about his comments on Steve McConnell's blog. If I may make a suggestion, when the source material is likely to be unavailable, it might be better to quote the reasons given rather than the conclusions -- then we can try to follow the reasoning rather than having to take someone's conclusions at face value.
  - jdlshore 14y ago
    I don't understand what you're getting at here. Laurent's book (written after McConnell's blog) is available at http://leanpub.com/leprechauns http://leanpub.com/leprechauns . If you're unable or unwilling to figure that out, I suspect you're not really trying. You're engaging in an asymmetric attack here--posting trivial statements that avoid the substance of my comments, but require me to do a lot of work to satisfy you. I've replied to your comments in good faith. Now the onus is on you.
    - igouy 14y ago
      Unwilling to pay the $5. > You're engaging in an asymmetric attack here < I wasn't engaging in any kind-of attack, just making a suggestion. You said -- "if you disagree, please read and rebut his work directly, not just these quotes" -- so, as I haven't read the book, I haven't tried to rebut those quotes.

by igouy 14y ago

> There's much more to Bossavit's research than my quotes here, so if you disagree, please read and rebut his work directly, not just these quotes. Please provide a copy of Bossavit's research.

jdlshore 14y ago

I was using "research" in the colloquial sense, not in the "research paper" sense. Bossavit researched the 10x claims (thoroughly and meticulously) and wrote up his findings in the book I mentioned. You can find it here: http://leanpub.com/leprechauns http://leanpub.com/leprechauns It's an impressive work of scholarship; many of the citations he followed were out of print, expensive, or referring to unnamed parts of 300-page books. Luckily for us, Bossavit's write-up is engaging and accessible. It isn't free, but it's trivially inexpensive (US$5-10) if you care about this subject. Far cheaper than the source material.

igouy 14y ago
> It isn't free And isn't available in any of the linked libraries available to me. And I already had a long email discussion with Laurent back in 2011, about his comments on Steve McConnell's blog. If I may make a suggestion, when the source material is likely to be unavailable, it might be better to quote the reasons given rather than the conclusions -- then we can try to follow the reasoning rather than having to take someone's conclusions at face value.
- jdlshore 14y ago
  I don't understand what you're getting at here. Laurent's book (written after McConnell's blog) is available at http://leanpub.com/leprechauns http://leanpub.com/leprechauns . If you're unable or unwilling to figure that out, I suspect you're not really trying. You're engaging in an asymmetric attack here--posting trivial statements that avoid the substance of my comments, but require me to do a lot of work to satisfy you. I've replied to your comments in good faith. Now the onus is on you.
  - igouy 14y ago
    Unwilling to pay the $5. > You're engaging in an asymmetric attack here < I wasn't engaging in any kind-of attack, just making a suggestion. You said -- "if you disagree, please read and rebut his work directly, not just these quotes" -- so, as I haven't read the book, I haven't tried to rebut those quotes.