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Are you saying mental illness makes someone broken, like a cripple? Foucault! Come quick! Seriously though, 'there aren't enough jobs' is just a weird thing

Are you saying mental illness makes someone broken, like a cripple? Foucault! Come quick! Seriously though, 'there aren't enough jobs' is just a weird thing to say. Aren't enough jobs for what? For everyone to not be homeless? Let me paint you a picture. You are homeless. At night, when it rains, you get wet. After a day of panhandling, you have $30. Do you: 1. Buy a meal (loaf of bread and coffee, $4) and save as much as possible for bus fare. 2. Buy a tent, so at least you can stay dry and avoid illness. 3. Buy 2 fifths of rotgut vodka and drink it on the sidewalk. The problem has absolutely nothing to do with jobs. If you had 5 open jobs for every person in the country, the same people would still be homeless.

steveklabnik 14y ago
> Are you saying mental illness makes someone broken, like a cripple? Foucault! Come quick! Yes, I am saying that the way that we treat people who have mental health issues discourages them even further. > Aren't enough jobs for what? I have friends from college who had to move back in with their parents because they literally could not find a job. They applied everywhere, even McDonalds. No work. > If you had 5 open jobs for every person in the country, the same people would still be homeless. No, they wouldn't. _Some_ people would be, there's always the travel punk kids. But even your hypothetical is giving me a decision between rational choices. You left off the 'the voices from your paranoid schizophrenia are so loud that all you can do is lie there in a ball' option.
- dsfasfasf 14y ago
  >>I have friends from college who had to move back in with their parents because they literally could not find a job. They applied everywhere, even McDonalds. No work. I have another anecdote to counter your anecdote. I have a friend just arrived a couple of weeks ago. In the first week she was able to find two jobs. One in a hotel in the buffet area and another in a clothing factory.

steveklabnik 14y ago

> Are you saying mental illness makes someone broken, like a cripple? Foucault! Come quick! Yes, I am saying that the way that we treat people who have mental health issues discourages them even further. > Aren't enough jobs for what? I have friends from college who had to move back in with their parents because they literally could not find a job. They applied everywhere, even McDonalds. No work. > If you had 5 open jobs for every person in the country, the same people would still be homeless. No, they wouldn't. _Some_ people would be, there's always the travel punk kids. But even your hypothetical is giving me a decision between rational choices. You left off the 'the voices from your paranoid schizophrenia are so loud that all you can do is lie there in a ball' option.

dsfasfasf 14y ago
>>I have friends from college who had to move back in with their parents because they literally could not find a job. They applied everywhere, even McDonalds. No work. I have another anecdote to counter your anecdote. I have a friend just arrived a couple of weeks ago. In the first week she was able to find two jobs. One in a hotel in the buffet area and another in a clothing factory.