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California tends to criminalize homelessness more than other states, due to this exact mindset. I'd head for the mountains.

by dgbsco 14y ago

sergiotapia 14y ago
I take it you haven't seen "First Blood"?
jabits 14y ago
Yes, and the people who own the "mountains" and cabins will love having you around, and they are even better armed than most city-dwellers. And don't think the National Forest Service will take kindly to squatters either. In our modern-day society, "dropping out" is not an option.
- jlgreco 14y ago
  > And don't think the National Forest Service will take kindly to squatters either. Actually, for the most part, they really don't care. Particularly so if you do not build any permanent structures or have a permanent camp. They cite people from time to time, but that is the extent of it the vast majority of the time.
sliverstorm 14y ago
And yet look at the homeless population of Santa Cruz. Something like 1 in every 20 residents are homeless, last I checked.
- rdouble 14y ago
  I found that number hard to believe, but then looked it up. The estimate is 2700 homeless in Santa Cruz out of a population of 60,000. In comparison, SF has estimated about 7000 homeless in a city of 800,000.
  - sliverstorm 14y ago
    Oh, I guess it's down, so my ratio is a bit off. Used to be above 3000. The ratio was 1 out of 17 in 2005, looks like now it is 1 out of 22.
    - jmspring 14y ago
      While it may be down, by 1 out of N, problems related to drug use, dealing, and the petty theft that comes with it has exacerbated issues around homelessness here in Santa Cruz. It is a complicated issue, but those seeking help are often overshadowed by the guys stripping bike parts to sell for scrap to get their next fix or very obvious drug dealing going on in and around the homeless services center. A number of people in Santa Cruz are in a bit of an uproar due to an uptick in crimes; as well as needles littering parks, beaches, and other public spaces. In the 20+ years I've been here, it certainly at a low point over that span of years.
      - sliverstorm 14y ago
        Yes, as far as impact I'm sure the change in ratio hasn't affected much. I was just attempting to be completely accurate.

California tends to criminalize homelessness more than other states, due to this exact mindset. I'd head for the mountains.

by dgbsco 14y ago

California tends to criminalize homelessness more than other states, due to this exact mindset. I'd head for the mountains.

sergiotapia 14y ago

I take it you haven't seen "First Blood"?

jabits 14y ago

Yes, and the people who own the "mountains" and cabins will love having you around, and they are even better armed than most city-dwellers. And don't think the National Forest Service will take kindly to squatters either. In our modern-day society, "dropping out" is not an option.

jlgreco 14y ago
> And don't think the National Forest Service will take kindly to squatters either. Actually, for the most part, they really don't care. Particularly so if you do not build any permanent structures or have a permanent camp. They cite people from time to time, but that is the extent of it the vast majority of the time.

sliverstorm 14y ago

And yet look at the homeless population of Santa Cruz. Something like 1 in every 20 residents are homeless, last I checked.

rdouble 14y ago
I found that number hard to believe, but then looked it up. The estimate is 2700 homeless in Santa Cruz out of a population of 60,000. In comparison, SF has estimated about 7000 homeless in a city of 800,000.
- sliverstorm 14y ago
  Oh, I guess it's down, so my ratio is a bit off. Used to be above 3000. The ratio was 1 out of 17 in 2005, looks like now it is 1 out of 22.
  - jmspring 14y ago
    While it may be down, by 1 out of N, problems related to drug use, dealing, and the petty theft that comes with it has exacerbated issues around homelessness here in Santa Cruz. It is a complicated issue, but those seeking help are often overshadowed by the guys stripping bike parts to sell for scrap to get their next fix or very obvious drug dealing going on in and around the homeless services center. A number of people in Santa Cruz are in a bit of an uproar due to an uptick in crimes; as well as needles littering parks, beaches, and other public spaces. In the 20+ years I've been here, it certainly at a low point over that span of years.
    - sliverstorm 14y ago
      Yes, as far as impact I'm sure the change in ratio hasn't affected much. I was just attempting to be completely accurate.