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Can't shed any light on this, just wanted to add a 'me too'. As a perl veteran, I've been meaning to learn Python someday, and I figured I'd wait until the 'new

Can't shed any light on this, just wanted to add a 'me too'. As a perl veteran, I've been meaning to learn Python someday, and I figured I'd wait until the 'new' one became the standard, saving me from worrying about all the random incompatibilities. Maybe I'll only have to wait a few more years! ...makes me wonder if anyone had the opposite thought: A python programmer thinking of learning perl, but waiting until this newfangled perl 6 became the standard. I wonder who'll end up learning a new language first?

lrem 14y ago
For a good start, has Perl 6 finally been released?
- sigzero 14y ago
  Not in a form that you would use for production, no.
elbear 14y ago
If you want to learn Python, you should jump in. The differences between Python 2 and Python 3 are easy to pick up if you start with Python 2.
zanny 14y ago
As a polyglot whose preferred scripting language is Python, 3 is the future, there will be no more backwards compatibility breakage in it (that was what going to v3 was for) and the only reason major dev houses still don't use it is because legacy 2.7 code isn't / won't be ported, and is backwards incompatible. 3.0 and its usage of pervasive unicode is an essential scripting language feature Python needed, and where Python2 was a syntactically pretty language with some big pitfalls and "wtfs?" Python3 corrects most of those and is all around better for it. I do have to say, as someone who has looked at Perl, that is pretty much my stance - Perl 6 is a long time coming, I want it to hit before I try out Perl, same reason I waited until C++11 was market ready to jump into C++ (and now I'm writing qt apps all the time).
- PommeDeTerre 14y ago
  I think it's pretty safe to say at this point that Perl 6 will never really arrive. If a language doesn't have a practical implementation after well over a decade, it probably never will. This is even more true given that many of its features are now available, often in a better form, in many other mainstream languages. At least Python 3 exists, and is usable for production-grade systems. Its adoption may not have been as quick as anticipated, but at least it does exist, and it is usable.

lrem 14y ago

For a good start, has Perl 6 finally been released?

sigzero 14y ago
Not in a form that you would use for production, no.

elbear 14y ago

If you want to learn Python, you should jump in. The differences between Python 2 and Python 3 are easy to pick up if you start with Python 2.

zanny 14y ago

As a polyglot whose preferred scripting language is Python, 3 is the future, there will be no more backwards compatibility breakage in it (that was what going to v3 was for) and the only reason major dev houses still don't use it is because legacy 2.7 code isn't / won't be ported, and is backwards incompatible. 3.0 and its usage of pervasive unicode is an essential scripting language feature Python needed, and where Python2 was a syntactically pretty language with some big pitfalls and "wtfs?" Python3 corrects most of those and is all around better for it. I do have to say, as someone who has looked at Perl, that is pretty much my stance - Perl 6 is a long time coming, I want it to hit before I try out Perl, same reason I waited until C++11 was market ready to jump into C++ (and now I'm writing qt apps all the time).

PommeDeTerre 14y ago
I think it's pretty safe to say at this point that Perl 6 will never really arrive. If a language doesn't have a practical implementation after well over a decade, it probably never will. This is even more true given that many of its features are now available, often in a better form, in many other mainstream languages. At least Python 3 exists, and is usable for production-grade systems. Its adoption may not have been as quick as anticipated, but at least it does exist, and it is usable.