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I'm not sure how Firefox OS vs Android OS really factors into the discussion. If Firefox OS is fully-featured and open enough to become an alternative to Andro

by Zikes 14y ago

I'm not sure how Firefox OS vs Android OS really factors into the discussion. If Firefox OS is fully-featured and open enough to become an alternative to Android, FB Home could conceivably be built to run just as well on Firefox OS as on Android.

r00fus 14y ago
Exactly, of course, unless the licensing terms to modify FirefoxOS as much as Android are onerous to the likes of Facebook. I think the pining for FirefoxOS is only meaningful if Mozilla takes a stand on privacy or the like. And they're not in a strong position to do so.
leeoniya 14y ago
yes, but i'm expecting mozilla will have vastly more granular and privacy-first oriented permissions than android. since google wants your data, and mozilla does not. ideally, i would like to hook and script a conditional firewall of sorts between any apps and my hardware or data. for example, i dont want any app querying my location when i am at home or at work. how awesome would it be to set rules like this? some invasive permissions are ok when i choose to allow them, but not indefinitely so long as the app lives on my phone, which is the situation right now. i can do a lot of quasi-scripting with Tasker for android, but not nearly enough.
- trhtrsh 14y ago
  You know how Mozilla makes their money, right? https://www.google.com/search?q=ok&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a https://www.google.com/search?q=ok&rls=org.mozilla:en-US...
  - leeoniya 14y ago
    and? are you suggesting that google, by some logical extension, is influencing mozilla's privacy decisions in their OS? 18% of internet users use firefox. thats a lot of eyeballs google would be missing out on without the search deal in place. they gets much more out of that arrangement than mozilla does to have any leverage. MS would be equally happy to pay mozilla for that 18%. moz can easily find many other avenues to make money while goog cannot find an extra 18% user base elsewhere.

by Zikes 14y ago

r00fus 14y ago

Exactly, of course, unless the licensing terms to modify FirefoxOS as much as Android are onerous to the likes of Facebook. I think the pining for FirefoxOS is only meaningful if Mozilla takes a stand on privacy or the like. And they're not in a strong position to do so.

leeoniya 14y ago

yes, but i'm expecting mozilla will have vastly more granular and privacy-first oriented permissions than android. since google wants your data, and mozilla does not. ideally, i would like to hook and script a conditional firewall of sorts between any apps and my hardware or data. for example, i dont want any app querying my location when i am at home or at work. how awesome would it be to set rules like this? some invasive permissions are ok when i choose to allow them, but not indefinitely so long as the app lives on my phone, which is the situation right now. i can do a lot of quasi-scripting with Tasker for android, but not nearly enough.

trhtrsh 14y ago
You know how Mozilla makes their money, right? https://www.google.com/search?q=ok&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a https://www.google.com/search?q=ok&rls=org.mozilla:en-US...
- leeoniya 14y ago
  and? are you suggesting that google, by some logical extension, is influencing mozilla's privacy decisions in their OS? 18% of internet users use firefox. thats a lot of eyeballs google would be missing out on without the search deal in place. they gets much more out of that arrangement than mozilla does to have any leverage. MS would be equally happy to pay mozilla for that 18%. moz can easily find many other avenues to make money while goog cannot find an extra 18% user base elsewhere.