Some of us do use bare-bones console vim because we're using it remotely through a terminal. Or because, god help us, Solaris still doesn't install vim by defa

Some of us do use bare-bones console vim because we're using it remotely through a terminal. Or because, god help us, Solaris still doesn't install vim by default and we're stuck using plain old vi (at least on a customer's server, where I can't just go and install vim). That's why I learned vi back in 2004, and while I still get tripped up when backspace doesn't work in insert mode because of some terminal setting, using hjkl has become second nature. There's a lot to be said for absolutely having to learn something. Once I learned enough to be proficient doing simple editing, I switched to using gvim on my Windows machines, and then learned more as I found myself wondering if there was a better way to do something. Now I do virtually all of my coding in vim. The only downside of this I've found is that I'll occasionally C-w when typing in a web form and close my tab instead of deleting the last word. I never got interested enough in emacs to learn it, but if I find myself in a situation where it's what I need to accomplish something I'll learn it. Need is a powerful motivator. EDIT: I should also note that learning vi[m] on a computer with a Sun layout keyboard makes the idea of switching into command mode a lot more palatable. Esc is right there next to the 1, rather than somewhere in the next state.