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Beware the Perils of Caffeine Withdrawal

22 points by banned_man 18y ago

brandnewlow 18y ago
Been caffeine-free for 4 years now. So far it's been the smartest move I ever made. I'm not a health nut, but I steer clear of caffeine religiously. With even a trace of it in me, I can't sleep, can't think, can't concentrate.
- electromagnetic 18y ago
  You sound like you're caffeine sensitive person, it's probably good that you steer clear, from what I remember you'd have a higher chance of palpitations and other side effects of caffeine.
  - brandnewlow 18y ago
    I'm pretty sensitive to stimuli in general. I had trouble sleeping for the first 23 years of my life, until I cut out the caffeine.
tricky 18y ago
Here's a tip if you would like to quit but can't because the withdrawal is awful. Wait until you get food poisoning or the flu. You'll probably take some time off work and you'll probably (and should) be under the care of a doctor. You might as well throw in the awfulness that is withdrawal and get it over with. I turned the hell of "how old was that yogurt I just ate?" into an opportunity to quit my 6 cup a day habit. I'm a little nuts in that I kept some coffee by my bedside and every time I was about to yarf I took a gulp... I haven't had coffee since, but I did have to be careful not to replace it with some other caffeine source.
- logicalmind 18y ago
  While I don't condone anyone intentionally getting food poisoning, your post is exactly what my father did to quit smoking. He contracted a bout of severe food poisoning that was so bad he couldn't even smoke. He had been a pack-a-day smoker for decades. He never smoked again.
- dave_au 18y ago
  I did that and it worked pretty well. I was drinking a lot of Coke. Six months later I thought "I'll have a Coke for lunch, it's alright since I had one with lunch yesterday". I almost paid for it before I realised I'd only had a very detailed dream where I'd bought and consumed a bottle of Coke with lunch. I decided to stay off the caffeine for a little longer.
transburgh 18y ago
this answers some questions (not being sarcastic)
RiderOfGiraffes 18y ago
I've never understood this. Three cups of coffee described as addicted? I regularly drink 8 to 10 cups of coffee a day, and yet when I decide to go without for a week or two, as I do once or twice a year [EDIT: typo corrected - did say "week" - obviously wrong - sorry], I seem to feel no real effects. I just like the coffee, so I return to drinking it. Am I that weird?
- hellweaver666 18y ago
  Maybe you have a natural resistance to the negative side effects?
- ComputerGuru 18y ago
  From the article: Up to 90 percent of North Americans consume caffeine products every day. About half will experience withdrawal syndrome if they don't partake.
  - silentbicycle 18y ago
    Of those 90 percent, there is probably a much smaller percentage that consumes more than, say, 300 mgs caffeine daily. That also doesn't say much about the severity of the withdrawl symptoms. (Slightly drowsy? Persistent, intense headache?)
- gjm11 18y ago
  You go without for a week or two once or twice a week? Seems unlikely. (Did you mean once or twice a year?) Or: You decide to go without for a week or two once or twice a week? Quite possible, but your ability to do that doesn't seem to me to be much evidence of anything... I'd guess that different people get addicted to different extents.
- josefresco 18y ago
  You sound like those drug addicts who "quit" for a few days/weeks only to return to the drug because they "like it" and can quit anytime in the future (I swear I don't have a problem, honest) Just because you have the ability to temporarily abstain for a few days/weeks does not mean you don't have a problem. But kudos to you for not taking a huge energy hit when you take a break. I, like you am somewhat unaffected by low doses of caffeine (8-10 cups a day is not a low dose however) Also, if you simply like coffee, why not decaf?
randallsquared 18y ago
I find that going off caffeine is best done all at once, rather than by cutting back. That just spreads the misery out. However, by going cold turkey, I find that I'm essentially fine on the third day, actually feel noticeably better by the fourth or fifth day. I've done this about 10 times in the last eight years, for various reasons, but the main reason I continue doing it is that the effects of caffeine rapidly dwindle to "normal" for me over a period of weeks or months, and the only way to get the pick-up effect again, that I've found, is to drop it entirely and start over. It's fortunate that this is so easy. :)
- josefresco 18y ago
  You should try meth, you'll probably get lots more done. /Yes, that was a joke (sort of).
  - randallsquared 18y ago
    Only sort of? In what way could it not be a joke? Personally, caffeine is already near the upper limit in side effects I'm willing to tolerate (trembling and nervousness if I drink too much), and I don't think I'd be willing to experiment with meth even if it were safe and legal. I did try modafinil once, many years ago, and was astounded at how well it replicated all the beneficial effects of caffeine without the side effects (and had a concentration boost as well, which is actually the opposite of caffeine effects for me), but for financial reasons I didn't pursue getting a prescription at that time.
    - rms 18y ago
      Caffeine has more negative side effects than prescription stimulants, at least per unit of effective stimulation. Talk to your doctor, the older stimulants (with a lot more research establishing their safety) are all available as generics.
      - alecco 18y ago
        I don't know what other stimulants have less negative side effects. Ephedrine?
hellweaver666 18y ago
As bad as it is, it's totally true - I was a serious caffeine junky for a long time and it took me a while to kick the bean. These days I stick to water and Chamomile when I want a hot drink as the Doc told me my excessive caffeine consumption was making a stomach problem I have worse and the dentist could tell I was drinking too much Coke just by looking at my teeth. When I first gave it up I was suffering from serious headaches for about a week afterwards and constant cravings.
- josefresco 18y ago
  Until recently I was a 1 Coke a day guy (which I was proud of for showing 'retraint'). I've since dropped it (in the house) and only drink it when I'm out which is pretty rare. For me it wasn't the caffeine but rather the sweet taste and fizzy nature of Coke that had me hooked. Now it's all about water, milk (for the calcium/protein) and all natural juices (watered down of course to reduce the natural sugar levels)
pavel_lishin 18y ago
"Caffeinated products are not recommended for people who are prone to panic attacks or those who suffer from anxiety." Goddamnit.
rjurney 18y ago
I take Adderall and drink a boat load of coffee, so I make it a point to 'withdraw' for 1-2 days a week to avoid dependence. I find that it works well to avoid side effects.
neilo 18y ago
My mom used to suffer headaches on days we ran out of coffee at home, so I vowed never to touch the stuff. That reminds me, I need some more to get through these integration tests ...
ams6110 18y ago
I find that if I can stay physically active I don't miss caffeine. For example, when I go on vacation I typically don't drink coffee. But I'm usually at the beach, or have a lot of other stuff going on and I really don't miss it. If I stop coffee during a normal work week, I get the headaches, fatigue, etc.
devicenull 18y ago
I used to be up to around 2 2-liters of mountain dew a day... stopping from that was terrible. I was tired all the time and kept getting headaches. The solution to this was to drink a ton of water. The last time I even attempted to have any soda I was utterly disgusted by the taste. I dunno, seems like a good choice I made

22 points by banned_man 18y ago

Been caffeine-free for 4 years now. So far it's been the smartest move I ever made. I'm not a health nut, but I steer clear of caffeine religiously. With even a trace of it in me, I can't sleep, can't think, can't concentrate.

electromagnetic 18y ago
You sound like you're caffeine sensitive person, it's probably good that you steer clear, from what I remember you'd have a higher chance of palpitations and other side effects of caffeine.
- brandnewlow 18y ago
  I'm pretty sensitive to stimuli in general. I had trouble sleeping for the first 23 years of my life, until I cut out the caffeine.

tricky 18y ago

Here's a tip if you would like to quit but can't because the withdrawal is awful. Wait until you get food poisoning or the flu. You'll probably take some time off work and you'll probably (and should) be under the care of a doctor. You might as well throw in the awfulness that is withdrawal and get it over with. I turned the hell of "how old was that yogurt I just ate?" into an opportunity to quit my 6 cup a day habit. I'm a little nuts in that I kept some coffee by my bedside and every time I was about to yarf I took a gulp... I haven't had coffee since, but I did have to be careful not to replace it with some other caffeine source.

logicalmind 18y ago
While I don't condone anyone intentionally getting food poisoning, your post is exactly what my father did to quit smoking. He contracted a bout of severe food poisoning that was so bad he couldn't even smoke. He had been a pack-a-day smoker for decades. He never smoked again.
dave_au 18y ago
I did that and it worked pretty well. I was drinking a lot of Coke. Six months later I thought "I'll have a Coke for lunch, it's alright since I had one with lunch yesterday". I almost paid for it before I realised I'd only had a very detailed dream where I'd bought and consumed a bottle of Coke with lunch. I decided to stay off the caffeine for a little longer.

transburgh 18y ago

this answers some questions (not being sarcastic)

RiderOfGiraffes 18y ago

I've never understood this. Three cups of coffee described as addicted? I regularly drink 8 to 10 cups of coffee a day, and yet when I decide to go without for a week or two, as I do once or twice a year [EDIT: typo corrected - did say "week" - obviously wrong - sorry], I seem to feel no real effects. I just like the coffee, so I return to drinking it. Am I that weird?

hellweaver666 18y ago
Maybe you have a natural resistance to the negative side effects?
ComputerGuru 18y ago
From the article: Up to 90 percent of North Americans consume caffeine products every day. About half will experience withdrawal syndrome if they don't partake.
- silentbicycle 18y ago
  Of those 90 percent, there is probably a much smaller percentage that consumes more than, say, 300 mgs caffeine daily. That also doesn't say much about the severity of the withdrawl symptoms. (Slightly drowsy? Persistent, intense headache?)
gjm11 18y ago
You go without for a week or two once or twice a week? Seems unlikely. (Did you mean once or twice a year?) Or: You decide to go without for a week or two once or twice a week? Quite possible, but your ability to do that doesn't seem to me to be much evidence of anything... I'd guess that different people get addicted to different extents.
josefresco 18y ago
You sound like those drug addicts who "quit" for a few days/weeks only to return to the drug because they "like it" and can quit anytime in the future (I swear I don't have a problem, honest) Just because you have the ability to temporarily abstain for a few days/weeks does not mean you don't have a problem. But kudos to you for not taking a huge energy hit when you take a break. I, like you am somewhat unaffected by low doses of caffeine (8-10 cups a day is not a low dose however) Also, if you simply like coffee, why not decaf?

randallsquared 18y ago

I find that going off caffeine is best done all at once, rather than by cutting back. That just spreads the misery out. However, by going cold turkey, I find that I'm essentially fine on the third day, actually feel noticeably better by the fourth or fifth day. I've done this about 10 times in the last eight years, for various reasons, but the main reason I continue doing it is that the effects of caffeine rapidly dwindle to "normal" for me over a period of weeks or months, and the only way to get the pick-up effect again, that I've found, is to drop it entirely and start over. It's fortunate that this is so easy. :)

josefresco 18y ago
You should try meth, you'll probably get lots more done. /Yes, that was a joke (sort of).
- randallsquared 18y ago
  Only sort of? In what way could it not be a joke? Personally, caffeine is already near the upper limit in side effects I'm willing to tolerate (trembling and nervousness if I drink too much), and I don't think I'd be willing to experiment with meth even if it were safe and legal. I did try modafinil once, many years ago, and was astounded at how well it replicated all the beneficial effects of caffeine without the side effects (and had a concentration boost as well, which is actually the opposite of caffeine effects for me), but for financial reasons I didn't pursue getting a prescription at that time.
  - rms 18y ago
    Caffeine has more negative side effects than prescription stimulants, at least per unit of effective stimulation. Talk to your doctor, the older stimulants (with a lot more research establishing their safety) are all available as generics.
    - alecco 18y ago
      I don't know what other stimulants have less negative side effects. Ephedrine?

hellweaver666 18y ago

As bad as it is, it's totally true - I was a serious caffeine junky for a long time and it took me a while to kick the bean. These days I stick to water and Chamomile when I want a hot drink as the Doc told me my excessive caffeine consumption was making a stomach problem I have worse and the dentist could tell I was drinking too much Coke just by looking at my teeth. When I first gave it up I was suffering from serious headaches for about a week afterwards and constant cravings.

josefresco 18y ago
Until recently I was a 1 Coke a day guy (which I was proud of for showing 'retraint'). I've since dropped it (in the house) and only drink it when I'm out which is pretty rare. For me it wasn't the caffeine but rather the sweet taste and fizzy nature of Coke that had me hooked. Now it's all about water, milk (for the calcium/protein) and all natural juices (watered down of course to reduce the natural sugar levels)

pavel_lishin 18y ago

"Caffeinated products are not recommended for people who are prone to panic attacks or those who suffer from anxiety." Goddamnit.

rjurney 18y ago

I take Adderall and drink a boat load of coffee, so I make it a point to 'withdraw' for 1-2 days a week to avoid dependence. I find that it works well to avoid side effects.

neilo 18y ago

My mom used to suffer headaches on days we ran out of coffee at home, so I vowed never to touch the stuff. That reminds me, I need some more to get through these integration tests ...

ams6110 18y ago

I find that if I can stay physically active I don't miss caffeine. For example, when I go on vacation I typically don't drink coffee. But I'm usually at the beach, or have a lot of other stuff going on and I really don't miss it. If I stop coffee during a normal work week, I get the headaches, fatigue, etc.

devicenull 18y ago

I used to be up to around 2 2-liters of mountain dew a day... stopping from that was terrible. I was tired all the time and kept getting headaches. The solution to this was to drink a ton of water. The last time I even attempted to have any soda I was utterly disgusted by the taste. I dunno, seems like a good choice I made