Well, you said: > If you need to fork or kiss Google's ass to implement changes to it, then it's not really open. You're right - you can't be sure to get your

Well, you said: > If you need to fork or kiss Google's ass to implement changes to it, then it's not really open. You're right - you can't be sure to get your changes added to the codebase, but that's not to say it's not open. Hey, at least the codebase is there for you to fork and enjoy. It's not totally open (maybe, we don't really know that yet - you're just assuming it won't be) - it's certainly not closed like many others however.